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The Norths of Ireland

This tree was initially prepared in 2007 based on the work of Peter Bamford and Sheila Perino, drawing on a number of sources.  Work continues, and the tree is still being fairly rapidly expanded and revised in 2009.

You will probably find this tree rather large and unwieldy, though the details are often the more interesting part of the story.  There is a concise version in which the detail has been deleted.  It is still rather large but might make it easier to follow the structure of the family.

The Norths of Ireland are descended from the Norths of Guilford, Surrey, England (CoN).  For more information on the early Norths in England, see the Supplement in The Lives of Rt Hon Francis North, Baron Guilford, The Hon Sir Dudley North and the Hon Rev Dr John North, together with an autobiography of the author, by the Hon Roger North, edited by Augustus Jessopp, DD, in three volumes, London, George Bell & Sons, York St., Covent Garden, 1890.  Copy in the National Library, Dublin (EN email 6 Mar 2008).  And Burke's Peerage and Baronetage (EN email 20 Sep 2009).

About 1660, after the Cromwellian Settlement of Ireland, a John North was resident at Kilbride and had issue (CoN).  A post to Ancestry.com by Mary E North Cull dated 22 May 2009 says John's wife was Mary Hannah Bird

1a Roger North of Newcastle, d 1701 (CoN), will pr at Trim (Bainbridge) and had issue

2a Joseph North of Newcastle (CoN), d c1729 (will dated 7 Mar 1728, probate dated Aug 1729: 16.4.2, Vicars prerogative wills), d after 1726, will 1729 (SP1), m Mary (16.4.2) m 1705 (SP1) Mary Emor (or, incorrectly, Mary Ernor (alive 1726 (SP1)), daughter of Richard Emor or, incorrectly, Richard Ernor (SP3), and had issue.  'Ernor' seems to have been a printers' error in Bainbridge: subsequent children are all named Emor.  The order of Joseph's children here is that in his will. Will of Joseph North, Newcastle, Prerogative Grant Book 1729 Folio 297 A: beloved wife Mary £100 & £20 a year; Roger, eldest son, farm and stock; Richard, Philip, Susanna, Emor, Joseph, Sarah, Mary, William, Michael, John, Anne; and to Robert Walker a cow called Thickhorns. Signed Joseph North, 7 Mar 1728 (EN email 11 Apr 2008)

3a Roger North of Newcastle, named as eldest son in his father's will, d c1765 (16.4.2), d c1766 (Vicars prerogative wills), m Mary Ulick Browne daughter of Ulick Browne of Slane, Co Meath (SP3) (gravestone engraving, Dundoden, Westmeath (SP1)) and had issue.  Betham's extract of his will states, '217 North Roger of Newcastle Co Wtmeath Gent - Dated 23 June 1765 - pd 24 Feb 1766 - wife Mary - Son Ulysses - daur Susanna - Sons Charles - & Richard - Sons Roger - and Philip - daurs Mary Cane - and Margaret Bonynge - Brothers William - and Joseph North -'.  Deed 1777 321 10 211494 records the date of Roger's will as 24 Feb 1764.  Deed 96 66662 of 4 Jun 1736 is their marriage settlement: a memorial of indented articles of agreement effected between Ulick Browne of Slane in the county of Meath gent of the one part & Roger North of New Castle in the county Westmeath gent of the other part whereby in consideration of a marriage then intended shortly to he had between the said Roger North and Mary Browne, youngest daughter of the said Ulick Browne, & other considerations therein mentioned the said Roger North did covenant to settle the town and lands of New Castle in the said county of Westmeath containing 251 acres plantation measure (EN email 24 Oct 2007; CN email 21 Jun 2009).  Deed 321 10 211494 of 26 Mar 1777 refers to his children Charles, Susanna, Richard, Ulysses and Joseph; it recites deed 1758 190 487 127789 of 7 Apr 1758, the demise to Roger North of the lands of Davidstown from Henry Pilkington of Kilbeggan and Abraham Pilkington of Toar for the lives of Charles, Susanna and Richard North for 5/- pa (that lease for lives was inherited by Roger's son Charles and subsequently exchanged for a lease for ever: deed 1779 331 231 221491); the 26 Apr 1757 demise to Roger North of Lisauna [Lissara] in the Barony of Moycashel from Judge Rochfort of Steamstown for an annual rent of £10; and subsequent lease on 2 Mar 1758 of the same lands of Lisauna to William North of Clonfad in trust for Roger North at an annual rent of £4 (?deed  1758 190 488 127791 - though that deed has no recorded date, makes no mention of Roger North and is for a rent of £6 pa: perhaps recollections had become a little rusty by 1777?).  In deed 1758 190 489 127792 of 15 Mar 1758, Alexander Swift of Lyn, Co Westmeath, granted to Roger North of Newcastle an annuity of £25 pa out of the lands of Lynn for the natural life of said Alexander Swift.  Deed 1758 190 488 127790 records a grant to Roger North on 7 Apr 1758 by Henry Pilkington of Toar and his son and heir Abraham Pilkington, of an annuity of £60 pa payable out of King for the lives of his children Charles, Susanna and Richard.  That grant was reversed in deed 1779 331 231 221491.  Deed 185 553 124252 of 26 April 1757 concerns Roger North Newcastle, William North, and Robert Rochfort of Westmeath: Roger North did grant set and to farm [let] to Robert Rochfort his heirs etc, all the lands and towns of Lisaord(?) [Lissara] c 72 acres Barony Moycashel from 1 May during lives of Robert Rochfort, Charles Rochfort his son, and Mary Rochfort his daughter (EN email 17 Aug 2008)  Deed 321 10 211494 of 26 Mar 1777 records that Roger left Lisaura to his son Richard.  Deed 208 395 139000 of 1 May 1761 is a record of a mortgage by Bryan Geoghan of Derryroe, Barony of Moycashel, Co Westmeath over his land at Derryroe for £420 sterling to Roger North of Newcastle, gent.  Deed 220 56 143990 of 14 Dec 1761 outlined arrangements for the substitution of new 'lives' in the same mortgage, and was witnessed by William North of Clonfad, attorney in the Court of Exchequer in Ireland (Roger's brother) (CN email 10 Mar 2009)

4a Ulysses North of Newcastle or Ulysses Browne North (deed 308 437 206170 of 1775 (EN email 14 Mar 2008; CN email 9 Mar 2010)), d 1780, High Sheriff of Westmeath (CoN), m Eliza Bagot (16.4.2) or Anne Parleat (SP1) (SP email 11 Mar 2008) and had issue.  Eliza's will of 30 Oct 1833 (as Elizabeth North, widow) left part of the lands of Kilcoursey called Cottage, parish Kilbride, Barony of Kilcoursey, King’s Co, to her grandson Charles Bagot; and £20 each to grandson William Bagot of Kilcoursey and granddaughter Eliza Ann Ball (Eliza Ann Bagot) widow of Mt Pleasant Ave Dublin.  Her executor was Charles Bagot (National Archives: EN email 25 Apr 2008)  She seems to have outlived her husband by 53 years, and when she made her will her daughter was already a widow.  Deed 1768 252 171270 of 18 Jun 1768 records a mortgage of lands of Newcastle, 251 ac profitable land plantation measure, Westmeath, from Ulysses North ('eldest son and heir at law of Roger North formerly of Newcastle') to Chas Hornby of Dublin for £500 sterling (EN email 24 Oct 2007 (as Book 270, ref. 171270); CN email 5 Aug 2009).  Deed 1784 352 240067 of 28 Oct 1778 records a mortgage for £622/13/8 of lands at Newcastle (251 ac, that part held by lease under the Earl of Belvedere), Gurteen, Co Tipperary (304 ac, leased from the representatives of the late Thomas Matthew; now Gurteen Agricultural College, about 2 miles from Clonfree: EN email 23 Jun 2009), at Gormagh, Kings Co (207 ac, held by lease from George Stepney), and at Lynn (leased to Alexander Swift), from Ulysses, just before his death, to Phillipe North, his brother, witnessed by William North of Clonfad [Phillipe North's son] and Charles North of Tyrrellspass [not placed] and Phillip North of Dublin [presumably Phillipe's second son] (EN email 24 Oct 2007, CN email 5 Aug 2009).  On 6 Dec 1831, Elizabeth North of Tyrrellspass leased and released forever the town and lands of Derryroe, Westmeath, ~62 acres, of which she 'was seized in fee or some other good and sufficient estate,' to Mary Shervington, widow, of Carlow, Co Carlow, along with 'all writings papers and evidences relating to the same or any part thereof' (deed 1831 878 494 582994: CN email 29 Apr 2009).  The references to evidence of title may indicate that Elizabeth did not have particularly good evidence of title to Derryroe; perhaps she inherited it via a default on the mortgage recorded above in deed 208 395 139000 of 1 May 1761.  It is not clear why she was 'of Tyrrellspass' at that time

5a Elizabeth North (16.4.2) m(1) Aug 1790 (ML) Rev Charles Emilius Bagot of Kilcoursey (her cousin: 16.4.2) and had issue (Burke); m(2) Rev John Ball of Gucey, County Wicklow (http://baggetthistory.com/irish_data.html)

6a Charles Bagot of Kilcoursey (Burke & will of his grandmother, Eliza Bagot).  Thoms 1846 directory records Charles Bagot of 12 Charlemont Place, Dublin, & Kilcoursey House, King’s Co.  Charles had issue, including Ulysses North Bagot, b 1822 (http://baggetthistory.com/irish_line.html), who, when of 12 Charlemont Place on 21 Feb 1851, married Rachel Meyler, dau of John Meyler (St Peter COI parish records, Dublin)

6b Ulysses Henry Bagot, d unmarried (Burke)

6c William Bagot, d unmarried (Burke & will of his grandmother, Eliza Bagot)

6d Emilius Walker Bagot (Burke)

6e Eliza Ann Bagot m Rev John Ball of Delganny, Co Wicklow (Burke & will of her grandmother, Eliza Bagot)

5b Mary North (16.4.2) or Maria North, m Milo Bagot (16.4.2).  Milo Bagot might be the Miles Bagot or Milo Bagott who appears in some deeds.  Deed 483 539 316980 of 19 Sept 1795: Milo Bagot of Paddocks, Kings Co and Maria Bagot otherwise North his wife; Rich Ross of Clara and Emor North of Dublin: marriage solemnized [presumably between Milo and Maria] & Milo Bagot did grant bargain sell release unto Rich Ross and Emor North [presumably as trustees, probably 4b Emor the attorney] all lands of Kilmalin, otherwise Paddocks, Barony of Kilcoursey, Kings Co 59 acres, & gives Maria £60 yearly for her jointure (EN email 21 Jun 2008)

4b Richard North (16.4.2), perhaps d c1789 (Vicars prerogative wills), m c Mar 1784 (Deed 1784 356 419 241213 records their marriage settlement) Lucinda Gouldsbury, widow of William Croghan, sister of Rev Ponsonby Gouldsbury, rector of St Catherines in Tullamore until 1830 (SP emails 10 & 20 Oct 2007) and had issue.  Richard 'was a military officer who died while his son was an infant. The education of the orphan was, however, tenderly conducted by his mother’s brother, the Rev Mr Gouldsbury, a wealthy and exemplary clergyman who died during the present year at an advanced age' (The Gentleman’s Magazine, Jul to Dec 1831, Vol Cl, 24, part 2^nd, by Sylvanus Urban, Gent, London (Google Books)).  Deed 1819 746 421 507956 indicates that the Rev Mr Gouldsbury was the Rev John Henry Gouldsbury.  Deed 308 437 206170 of 1775 (EN email 14 Mar 2008; CN email 9 Mar 2010) describes Richard North as 'Ensign in his Majesty's 15^th Regiment of Foot'.  A Lucinda North, aged 65, of the City of Dublin was buried on 30 Jan 1819 (so b c1754, aged c30 in 1784; Clontarf parish records, Dublin)

5a Catherine North. Deed 550 375 365776 is a marriage settlement dated 9 Dec 1802: John Lloyd Armstrong of Dublin, Catherine North of Dublin, Lucinda North, widow, mother of Catherine, Rev Henry Gouldsbury of Boyle, Co Roscommon, Rev Thomas Lloyd of Boyle - marriage between John Lloyd Armstrong & Catherine North, £1,000 part of the lands at Miltown (EN email 22 Jan 2009).  This looks like Catherine was a daughter of Lucinda Gouldsbury who married Richard North and became a widow on his early death.  Catherine would have to have been born shortly after her parents marriage (Mar 1784) to be old enough to marry in 1802

5b John Henry North, b 1789, d 29 Sep 1831 aged 42 after a few days illness, m in Dublin 2 Dec 1818 Letitia Dorothea Foster (SP3), youngest daughter of the Right Rev William Foster, Lord Bishop of Clogher, sister to the Hon John Leslie Foster MP (see wikipedia entry: he was not John Foster, First Baron Oriel (1740-1828), who was Chancellor of the Exchequer for Ireland: CN email 14 Aug 2009). His wife survived him and there were no children (SP email 10 Oct 2007).  Letitia Dorothea North, Collen, Louth, prerogative inventory, 1853 (CPR 1922 WW50).  The Kings Inns Admission Papers 1607 – 1867 (Irish Manuscripts Commission 1982: EN email 21 Sep 2009) record North, John Henry, only son of Richard [North], [of] Newcastle, [Guilford] decd, & Lucinda Goulsbury, educated Chester, TCD M [Michelmas] 1805.  J H North & Foster, marriage bond, 1818 (CPR 1922 WW24).  On 19 Nov 1836 (Deed 1836 21 66: CN email 26 Feb 2009) Letitia was a widow, executor of John Henry North's estate (giving up a lease for 900 years dated 15 Oct 1810 of 39 Upper Rutland St, Co Dublin) and 'of Monasterbois, Co Louth'; we don't know when she died. The TCD Alumni lists his father as 'Henry', not Richard as here (EN email 25 May 2008: 'North, John Henry, Pen. (P.T.), June 6, 1803, aged 15; s. of Henry, Generosus; b. Dublin. B.A. AEst. 1809. MA. Vern. 1811. [Bar 1810; Judge of the Court of Admiralty (I.).]'); Burke states that Ulysses North of Newcastle (4a above) was his uncle.  He was Trinity College Dublin, Irish Bar 1811, Judge of Admiralty, and MP for Drogheda (Sketches – The Irish Bar by the Right Honorable Richard Lalor Sheil, MP, Vol 1, 1854, Bedfield Publishers 110 Nassau St, New York (Google Books)).  In 1823 John Henry made a speech to the Jury in the case of Graham and Handwich: 'Whatout a bold and upright press there is no public opinion. The public itself is a heavy, inert, senseless mass, fit only to sustain the weight of power, and to bear the haughty foot that treads and tramples on it, this is the divine celestial spirit that informs it all, in every artery and pore with new vitality' (J Joly Pamphlets – National Library of Ireland Rare Book Collections 1125 1140 Irish Trials).  Thoms 1819 Directory records J H North, barrister, at 43 Upper Rutland St, Dublin.  Thoms 1825 records J H North, 31 Merrion Square, Dublin (EN email 28 Feb 2008).  In Merrion Square he was a neighbour to Daniel O'Connell (King Dan by Patrick M Geoghegan p230: EN email 31 Oct 2009).  There is a monument to John Henry North in the Harrow Parish Church (photo by Trevor King in SP email 13 Nov 2009)

• Deed 1819 746 421 507956 of [blank] [blank] 1818 is their marriage settlement (CN email 7 Aug 2009).  The total sum involved is £10,000, being £4,000 inherited from Letitia's parents and in lieu of all claims on the wills and £6,000 from John Henry North, the latter secured by £1,300 in 5% bonds already held by John Henry North and a range of bonds and judgements assigned to John Henry North     by his uncle the Rev John Henry Gouldsbury 'in consideration of the natural love which he bore to his nephew said John Henry North and of said marriage'.  The whole is held in trust.  The deed makes the usual sorts of provisions for the survivor and issue of the marriage.  It appears from the deed that Letitia had brothers William Foster of Cambridge, one of the trustees for the settlement, and John Leslie Foster, who was the principal heir and administrator of their parents' wills.  The Rev Charles Stong was the trustee appointed by the Norths. 

• Deed 1819  742  263  505398 of 21 Jun 1819 (CN email 10 Aug 2009) records a mortgage of John Henry North's house and land in Merrion Sq to John Leslie Foster for £1,700.  The house was built in about 1806, sold to Thomas Spunner on 3 July 1806, sold subsequently to Elinor Westropp who on 1 Dec 1818 sold it to John Henry North for £1,700.  The yearly rent under the original lease for 129 years was £113.15.  Deed 783 126 529261 of 1823 concerns John Henry North's sale of land at Dunleer, Co Louth (EN email 27 Sep 2008). 

• Deed 1830 862 315 574815 is a memorial of an indented deed of assignment dated 20 Aug 1830, in which the trustees of John and Letitia's marriage settlement take over a £5,000 bond and charge on the lands of Charles William Vane, Marquis of Londonderry, from Arthur Crawford and Charles Douglas, in return for cash paid to Arthur and Charles (CN email 3 May 2009).  The transaction feels like an investment and was done with the consent of all involved.  After John Henry died Letitia sold the Merrion Sq House for £900 (deed 889 2 588002 of Oct 1832: EN emails 10 Mar 2008, 11 & 27 Feb 2009): that deed refers to Henry as Henry North, late of Merrion Sq, Dublin, one of his Majesty’s counsel at ? town of Drogheda. 

• Deed 870 257 578757 of 14 Feb 1831: Honorable Jerome Desalis of Hillingdon Heath, Middlesex & Rokeby Hall, Co Louth 1st part; John Henry North of Merrion Sq, Dublin, Member of Parliament, 2nd part; George Stawell of Old Court, Co Cork, 3rd part; William Sperrard of Mainby, Co Louth, 4th part; & Radolp Desalis of Rokely Hall, 2nd son of said Jerome Desalis, 5th part - parties 1 and 2 sold lands of the manor, town and lands of Dunleer 1042 acres + Irish plantation measure and fairs and markets together with lands of Dromshalton, 13 acres (EN email 22 Feb 2009). 

• Deed 1838 1 153 of 19 Dec 1837 (CN email 4 Aug 2009) is a deed of release.  It refers back to deed 1830 862 315 574815 of 20 Aug 1930 (above) and looks like Letitia releases all claims to the outstanding amount of £4,000 on the loan in return for assignment to her of all the land held as security for it - it is, however, missing bits and far from clear.  

• Deeds 1841 3 68 and 1841 3 74 of 14 Nov 1841 concern Letitia Dorothy North, re the will of Lord Bishop Clogher (EN email 1 Feb 2009). 

• Deed 1851 3 174 of 1851: Letitia Dorothea North, widow - very lengthy deed re sale of land in Co Louth known as ?Mollymeddon (EN Email 16 Oct 2008)

4c Charles North of Guilford or Davidstown, m c1781 Ann Pilkington of Toar or Tore (23.2.1) (deed 1794 479 315 306621 (CN email 11 Mar 2010) recites their marriage settlement dated 19 Jan 1781) and had issue, sons and grandsons who joined the British Army (CoN).  There are several deeds concerning Charles:

• In deed 290 362 192544 Charles is described as the third son of Roger North then (1757) of Newcastle. 

• Deeds of lease and release bearing dates abt 7 and 8 Nov 1779 (Deed 1779 331 231 221491) whereby Abraham Pilkington of Tore Lodge in the county of Westmeath and Henry Pilkington of Toar in Co Westmeath, eldest son & heir apparent of the said Abraham Pilkington, did for the consideration of £600 paid by Charles North demise and to farm let to Charles North his heirs & assigns the lands of Davidstown for the natural lives of three persons therein named and the survivors of them at the yearly rent of five shillings & in which deed otherwise lease is contained a covenant for perputal renewal on payment of 1/- on the [fall?] of each life.  Recited in deeds 349 202 233648, 349 202 233649 & 345 616 23550.  The land in question is 95ac plantation.  This was the conversion  of a 7 Apr 1758 lease of 100 acres of Davidstown to Roger North from a term for lives to a term forever; it also involved the surrender of a grant to Roger North in 1758 of an annuity of £60 pa payable out of King (deed 1758 190 488 127790).  See deeds 321 10 211494 and 706 105 483720)

• Deed 338 361 227998 is a deed of mortgage and assignment dated 15 Dec 1780.  It is between Chas North of Prospect, Westmeath, & Roger North of Brackland, Kings Co; others mentioned are Abraham Pilkington and Henry his eldest son.  Annuities or rent charges of  £60pa on Cottage otherwise Davidstown & £60pa on Dunboden are made over by Charles North to Roger North in return for a loan of £170.  and refers to marriage between Charles North & Ann Pilkington shortly to be formalized life of Charles North, and various leases and rents, also mentions a Roger North of Ballycristal, Kings Co, signed Chas Walker & Richard Pilkington (EN email 7 Sep 2008; CN email 16 Mar 2010)

• Deed 331 418 222604 of 19 Jan 1780 concerns Charles North of Newcastle & Roger North of Ballycristal Kings Co: witness that Charles in consideration of £700 paid by Roger North did demise to Roger North, his heirs etc, Cottage, Davidstown, 90 acres, Fartullagh, during lives of Roger & Charles & Philip North brother to the said Roger & Charles and the survivors of them, rent £60 pa, with a clause of perpetual renewal and usual clauses between landlord and tenant, witnessed by Abraham Pilkington, Roger North, Joseph North both of Brackland (EN email 7 Sep 2008; CN email 25 Apr 2009).  This appears to be a reassignment of the lease of Davidstown by Charles to Roger for a capital sum plus rent.  It is clear that Roger  who is getting the lease is the brother of Philip and Charles; Roger North the witness must be another Roger

• Deed 1794 479 315 306621 of 15 Apr 1794 recites their marriage settlement dated 19 Jan 1781 (CN email 11 Mar 2010): Abm Pilkington & Henry Pilkington did grant and convey unto Wm Low Pilkington and Philip North the town and lands of Dunboden, subject to a mortgage therein mentd, in trust for said Charles North.  The deed itself concerns the assignment of a £60pa annuity from Charles to Rev Thomas Robinson to pay off the capital and interest of a £150 loan over 5 years.  The deed supercedes an earlier deed on the same matter (deed 1794  480  464  305620 of the same date: CN email 11 Mar 2010).

• Deed 1782  344 281 231479 of 15 Dec 1781 recites articles of agreement dated 19 Jan 1781, being articles for the intended marriage of Charles North and Ann Pilkington, third daughter of Abraham Pilkington of Toar: if such marriage should take effect, Abraham Pilkington and Henry Pilkington, Abraham's eldest son and heir apparent, covenented that they [would] grant the lands of Davidstown to William Pilkington of Dublin and Philip North of Newcastle forever upon trust; and that Charles North was to receive an annuity of £60 sterling as interest on £1000, being the marriage portion of Ann Pilkington (CN email 6 Jun 2009)

• The substance of Deed 1782  344 281 231479 of 15 Dec 1781 is that Charles North for and in consideration of two hundred and fifty pounds sterlg in hand paid by Roger North agrees to make over to Roger North the sum of sixty pounds a year issuing and payable out of the lands of Cottage otherwise Davidstown, and also the sum of sixty pounds a year issuing and payable out of the lands of Dunboden, until the said sum of two hundred and fifty pounds is fully satisfied & paid.  The deed also recites the earlier deeds of 8 Nov 1779 (describing it as a lease renewable forever) and 19 Jan 1780 (or 1781 - the marriage settlement, above) (CN email 6 Jun 2009)

• Deed 349 202 233648 is a deed of lease and release by way of mortgage dated 30 Apr and 1 May 1782: Roger North of Cottage, otherwise Davidstown, Westmeath 1st part and Charles North, other part - recites deeds of lease and release bearing dates abt 7 and 8 Nov 1779 whereby Abraham Pilkington of Tore Lodge in the county of Westmeath and Henry Pilkington of Toar in Co Westmeath, eldest son & heir apparent of the said Abraham Pilkington, did for the consideration of £600 paid by Charles North demise to Charles North his heirs & assigns the lands of Davidstown for the natural lives of three persons therein named and the survivors of them at the yearly rent of five shillings, and witnesses that Roger North for the consideration of £500 paid to him by Charles North did make over to Charles, his heirs etc, said lands of Davidstown for the lives of the said Charles North, Roger North & Philip North, brothers to the said Charles North, with a clause of redemption therein; witness Philip North of Dublin, gent, William Parnell of Dublin, servant, signed Roger North (EN email 22 Feb 2009; CN emails 6 Jun & 4 Aug 2009).  Charles had sold Davidstown to Roger in deed 331 418 222604 of Jan 1780 and Roger was living there; now Roger is mortgaging it back to Charles for £500 in cash, so Charles got the title deeds back again.  The land was then immediately conveyed back to Roger (deed 349 202 233649).  The mortgage was subsquently sold (deed 345 616 235500)

• Deed 349 202 233649 is a deed of conveyance, also of 1 May 1782: Charles North of Cottage of the first part and Roger North of Cottage of the other part - Charles for the consideration of £950 in hand paid by Roger grants, bargains and sells the lands of Davidstown, 95 ac plantation, to Roger for the lives of Charles, Roger and their brother Philip subject to covenants for renewal (as in the original lease from the Pilkingtons).  So Roger had the land, mortgaged it to Charles for £500 (i.e. sold it to Charles, but subject to a clause for redemption) and then Charles sold it right back to Roger for £950.  [One might presume that the payment of £950 discharged the mortgage, but it still seems to have been on foot the following year: deed 345 616 235500]

• Deed 345 616 235500 of 7 & 8 Feb 1783 is an indented deed of assignment of mortgage, between Charles North, late of Cottage, Davidstown, but now of Courtlands, Westmeath, 1st part; Roger North of Cottage Davidstown 2nd part [this Roger is Charles' brother: deed 338 361 227998]; and Andrew Reynolds of Ashe St in the Liberty of Thomas Court & Donore adjoining Dublin City, weaver and mercer, 3rd part.  It recites deed 349 202 233648 above and the 7 & 8 Nov 1779 lease on which it was based.  The import seems to be that the sum of £502 5s 5d was still due on the mortgage, and Charles and Roger conveyed the mortgage, including the lands securing the mortgage, and a bond dated February 1783, to Andrew Reynolds for £502 5s 5d paid to Charles and 10/- to Roger.  Charles was still dealing in the land, or at least his 'equity in redemption' in it, in 1816 (deed 706 185 483720).  It looks as if the Pilkingtons sold their interest in Davidstown to Charles for £600 in 1779 and Charles owned the land; in Jan 1780 Charles sold the property to Roger for £700; on 1 May 1782 Roger mortgaged the property back to Charles for £500; Charles the same day conveyed the land back to Roger for £950 but did not thereby pay off the mortgage; and then in this deed of Feb 1783 both Roger and Charles sold the mortgage to Andrew Reynolds for £502 5s 5d, and Charles pocketed the money - but the mortgaged lived on

• In deed 456 427 293446 of (1732 or) 1792 (EN email 14 Mar 2008, refers to both dates), Charles North demises to the Rev H Usher the town and land of Davidstown, otherwise Guilford, 180 acres for lives, witnesses Luke Usher of Birr and William Pilkington of Dublin

• Deed 671 58 460489 of 9 Nov 1813: between Charles North of Renelagh Rd, Co Dublin, 1st part; and Tho Cuff, South Cumberland St, Dublin, other part - reciting whereby said Chas North was, under marriage articles of Chas North with Anne North otherwise Pilkington his wife, entitled to receive from said Tho Cuff sum of £210 annually during his life as interest on £875 being the balance of £1000 secured by mortgage of the lands of Kilbeg, Co Westmeath, and whereas that Chas North stood indebted to Thos Cuff of Kilbeggan Westmeath therein mentd, in a sum of £250 which sum was secured by two deeds of mortgage or rent charges on the lands of Dunboden, Westmeath - sorting out various sums of money (EN email 22 Feb 2009)

• Deed 706 185 483720 of 1 Aug 1816 is an indented deed of assignment of equity of redemption: Charles North of Phillipsburgh Avenue in the c^oy of Dublin esq^r, for £200 sterling releases etc to Benjamin Fayle, Richard Chambers and Richard Taffray of the city of London, merchants, land at Davidstown [alternative name for Guilford], Barony of Fartullagh,  Co Westmeath, demised by an indenture dated 7 Apr 1758 from Henry and Abraham Pilkington to Roger North of 100 acres plantation, and land at Lisarra [Lisaura],  Moycashel, Westmeath, released in 1757 by Judge Rochfort to Roger North, estimated 72 acres (deed 185 553 124252 of 26 April 1757) (EN email 10 Mar 2008; CN email 11 Apr 2009; see deeds 321 10 211494, 349 202 233648 and 345 616 235500)

Deed 429 501965 of 29 Dec 1818 refers to William North of Dublin, eldest son and heir at law and adm of Philip North decd, formerly of Newcastle, Westmeath, late of the City of Dublin, 1st part; Chas North, the elder, of the City of Dublin, & Anne North, nee Pilkington, his wife, 2nd part; and 'their only children', Roger North of Dunnesfort Co Cork, late Capt 71st Reg Foot, Charles North the younger, Lieut 50th Reg Foot, Sam North, late Lieut 100th Reg Foot, and Anne North of Dublin, spinster, 3rd part; and Willliam Edwards of the City of Dublin, 4th part - sale by lease and release to Wm Edwards of  the town & lands of Kilbegg otherwise Kilbeg [and perhaps otherwise Kilbeggan?] formerly in the possession of James Clarke & his undertenants containing 300 acres in the parish of Horseleap, Barony of Moycashel, held by the 1st, 2nd and 3rd parties under and by virtue of  marriage articles therein recited [presumably those of Charles and Anne] (EN emails 14 & 24 Oct 2007; CN email 15 Apr 2009).  Deed 671 58 460489 also refers to Kilbeg and Kilbeggan.  The 1818 deed refers to their 'only' children; but there are two other children who have been attributed to the marriage: Henry and John.  The Army Officers 1756-1820 lists a Captain Charles North in the Philipstown district Yeomanry 1798 Ireland (EN email 14 Mar 2010)

5a Roger North, Dunnesfort, Co Cork, in 1818 a late Capt, Reg of Foot, or the 50th Rifles (Bainbridge), m 1815 Charlotte Swayne (SP1; Cloyne marriage bond in the National Archive: EN email 19 Apr 2008; Bainbridge) and had issue.  Deed 1816 687 469 472633 of 25 Jul 1815 records marriage articles between Roger North, Capt in the 50th Reg Foot 1st part, and John Swayne of Middleton, Co Cork, and Charlotte Swayne eldest daughter of said John Swayne 2nd part and Charles North esq^r Lieut in his maj^s 50th Reg of Foot  and George Swayne of Middleton in said Co Cork esq^r of the 3d part - in consideration of the then intended marriage between Roger North and Charlotte Swayne, John Swayne perfected and executed his bond of £800, to be held in trust by Charles North and George Swayne subject to terms (set out).  Witnesses Rev John Swayne of Kilworth, Co Cork and David Walsh of Ballin..iskig (EN email 14 Oct 2008; CN email 4 Mar 2010)

6a Charles Napier North b 12 Jan 1817 (SP email 8 Apr 2008), d 20 Aug 1869 aged 53 at the International Hotel, m 1841 (ML) Elizabeth Jane Jones, alive at the time of his death, and had issue (SP1).  His death certificate records that he was a retired Colonel in the army, and present at his death was Roger Charles North, relationship not listed, Royal Artillery, Fort Brockhurst, Gosport (SP email 6 Sep 2007).  In 1858 the then Major North of the 60th Rifles wrote a chronicle of a period in India in 1857, Journal of an English Officer in India.  He was then Deputy Judge Advocate General and Aide-de-Camp to General Havelock.  The Journal includes a photo of the author.  He was a Captain in the King's Royal Rifles in Dec 1848 (A Regimental Chronicle and List of Officers of the 60th or King's by Nesbit Willoughby (SP email 2 Oct 2007)).  He was a Lieutenant in the British army in 1836, Captain in 1838, Major in 1857, Lieutenant Colonel in 1858 and Colonel in 1865 (SP email 8 Apr 2008).  In the National Archives (reference M5710: EN emails 3 Apr 2008 & 26 Jan 2010) there is document regarding 'title to land at Clonmel', in which 'William Jones and Joseph Jones ... to their grandson Roger Charles Edward North, 5 Jun 1873 if he reaches 21 years.'  Assuming at least one of these two gentlemen was the father of Elizabeth Jane Jones, then she and Charles had a son, Roger Charles Edward North.  Deeds 1853 24 94 & 1863 40 148 (CN emails 18 Feb 2009 & 9 Apr 2010) both refer to the will of Sir Richard Jones, father of Morgan Jones (d c1862, Clonmel: Calendar of Wills, National Archive, EN email 15 Jul 2009) who was father of William Robertson Jones and concern legacies out of lands of Clonulty, Barony of Kilnenianagh?, Co Tipperary, from Sir Richard Jones to his grandson and 3 granddaughters: William Robertson Jones, Hollyville Park, Co Dublin in 1863; Elizabeth Jane Jones North, wife of Lt Col Charles Napier North stationed at the Tower of London in 1863; Mary Morgan Cuthbert, wife of Charles Davenport Cuthbert Dublin in 1853; and Jane Jones of Clonmel, spinster in 1853 (EN Email 16 Oct 2008)

7a Roger Charles Edward North, b c1847 (aged 14, boarding pupil on the Isle of Jersey in 1861 Channel Islands census, b India; aged 44 in the 1891 England census, living at Woolwich, London; b East Indies (SP email 22 Apr 2008)), d 15 Jun 1897 (extract of will in Calendar of Wills, National Archives: EN emails 3 Apr 2008, 15 Jul 2009), m Fanny Ellen Beeching (EN email 13 Apr 2008) b c1846 (aged 45 in the 1891 census, b Kent) and had issue. Military information from Hart's Annual List 1880; 1889; 1890; 1891: Royal Rifles Lieut July 15, 1868, Capt August 17, 1879; Major March 13, 1885; in 1890 and 1891 psc (private secretary to?) Peter Henry Hammond DAA Gen Straits Settlements; psc Robert Arthur Mongomery DAA Gen for Royal War Artillery, War Office (SP email 16 Apr 2008).  Of the Royal Artillery, Fort Brockhurst, Gosport when his father died in 1869.  Roger left a draft will dated 1879 (EN email 10 Apr 2008), in which he is described as 'a Lieutenant in the Royal Horse Artillery, at present quartered at Portobello Barracks Dublin', in which he leaves his estate to his wife, much of it in trust for his children when she dies (or for their education or advancement in the meantime) in proportions as noted below. At the time of his death he was described as Lieutenant Colonel, Royal Artillery, late of 55 Alexander Road Upper Norwood, Surrey, and formerly of Pembroke Dock, Pembroke (extract of will).  An India Office record adds that at the time of his death his 'location' was Rangoon (SP email 2 Dec 2008).  Deed 1877 22 103 of 22 May 1877: between Roger Charles North, Lt, Royal Artillery at present stationed in Exeter; & James Moriarty, Clonmel, Co Tipperary - North did grant bargain and release to Moriarty all that premises (seems to be small parcels of premises in the town at Dispensary St), and various formerly held by Thomas Green, Col Thos Christamas and Patrick Roche, Parish of St Mary, Barony of Iffa and Offa, Co Tipperary (EN email 11 Feb 2009)

8a Frances Elizabeth North (one third part), b c1872 (aged 19 in the 1891 census)

8b Charles Napier North (4/15th part), b c1873, (not with his family in the 1891 census).  The Commonwealth War Graves Commission website records that Charles Napier North, Major, Royal Engineers, 5th Field Coy, age 41, died on 1 Nov 1914 and is listed on the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial at panel 9.  He was the son of Mrs North, of 'Briarswood,' Camberley, Surrey, and the late Col North, R A.; husband of Norah C North, of 'Westholme,' Horsell, Woking, Surrey (EN email 28 Dec 2009)

8c Roger Edward Napier North (3/15th part) b c1875 (aged 16 in the 1891 census, b Aldershot, Hampshire)

8d Herbert Arthur Napier North (3/15th part) b c1878 (aged 13 in the 1891 census, b Exeter, Devon)

8e Dudley Burton Napier North, Admiral, Sir, b 25 Nov 1881 at Great Yarmouth, aged 9 in the 1891 census, d 15 May 1961 at Bridport, Dorset, 'a sad and bitter man' after a distinguished but in part controversial career in the Royal Navy, m(1) 1909 Eglantine Campbell of Sydney, Australia, 'a slim dark-haired girl'.  She died in 1917 without issue and he m(2) in 1923 Eilean Flora Graham of Dorset and had issue by her, a son and three daughters (ref: A Matter of Expediency, Charlotte & Denis Plimmer, London, 1978 (EN email 20 Dec 2009); National Biography of Ireland, Williams & Nicholls (EN email 13 Apr 2008)).  Photos.  Papers

9a Susan North, m Basil Watts (EN email 22 Dec 2009)

9b Mary Eglantine North, m 1954 in Denmark a civil engineer (EN email 22 Dec 2009)

9c Elizabeth North, m 1952 David Howard and had at least 2 daughters.  She wrote Enough Blue Sky, London, 1977 (EN email 22 Dec 2009)

9d Roger North, who went to Harrow (SP email 22 Apr 2008)

8f Harvey North, b c1884 (aged 7 in the 1891 census, b Great Yarmouth, Norfolk)

6b John North.  Died young (Bainbridge)

6c Charlotte Elizabeth North, m(1) in Cork 1842 Stephen Hickson (Charlotte Elizabeth North & Stephen Robert Hickson, marriage bond, 1842, Cork and Ross (CPR 1922 WW35)).  In Monkston (South Dublin) on 26 Oct 1854 George Henry Overend, gentleman, son of John Overend, married Charlotte Elizabeth Hickson otherwise North, widow, daughter of Roger North, Captain in the Army.  The witnesses were William Frederick North [not placed: an uncle?] and Frances Amie North [could be Frances Anne Blood m 5d Charles North, her aunt, who named one of her sons Frederick?] (marriage certificate: SP email 8 Apr 2008)

5b Samuel North, b 3 Oct 1791, d 4 Jun 1864,  late Lieutenant in 1818, 60th Regiment (Bainbridge), m 1815 in New Brunswick Susannah Campbell and had issue with descendents still living. According to Bainbridge, m A Douglass, but that is not thought to be correct, and the Douglas in the name of the child Emily Douglas North is thought to come from the Campbell family. They moved to New South Wales in 1826. (See SP emails 14 Feb, 30 Mar & 2 Apr 2008)

6a Frances Ann North, d 1852

6b Grace Amy North, d 1876

6c Isabella Frederica North

6d Edward James Campbell North, d 1883

6e John Henry Roger North

6f Emily Douglas North, b 1828

6g Eliza Mary North, b 1830, d 1910

6h Samuel Charles Valentine North, b 1832, d 1921

6i Henrietta Jane North, b 1833, d 1918

6j Joseph North, b 1836

5c Anne North, a spinster in the City of Dublin in 1818

5d Charles North (SP1) d 8 Oct 1819 or 10 Aug 1819 (Burke) of yellow fever in Jamaica (Burke; SP email 20 Feb 2009), m 15 Aug 1812  Frances Anne Blood (Burke's Irish Family Records 1976 p150) (Bainbridge says he married T Blood) b c1791, d 21 Jun1884 aged 92 at Rathdown Dublin or at Fort William, Glasthule, Co Dublin, daughter of Richard Blood and Jane Marie Shaw (Burke) of Co Down, niece C E Overend [Charlotte Elizabeth North, above] present at death, widow of an officer (death certificate: SP email 25 Sep 2007) and had issue.  Bainbridge says he served in the 50th Regiment.  Deed 1816 687 469 472633 of 25 Jul 1815 (above) describes him as a lieutenant in his Majesty's 50th Regiment of Foot.  She left a will (EN email 3 Apr 2008): late of Fortwilliam, 21 Jun 1884 probate granted to Charles Frederick North, 64 Wilbury Road, Brighton, Sussex, retired Major General, son, in the sum of £5

6a Henry North, b c1812, died young (SP2)

6b Charles Frederick North, b c1816 in Lurgan, Ireland, d 22 Nov 1906 in the UK, General in Royal Engineers, part of the Herit Mission in India, Aug 1839 (Sir John Login and Suleep Singh by Lena Login, 1890), lived in London, m Marion L ... (or Maria (SP2)), b c1834 in London.  In 1901 he was aged 85, a widower, living with Edith and Alice in London, and had issue (English census 1871, 1891, 1901; SP email 2 Oct 2007).  India Office records (ref: Z/O/1/10 No 7905) with a start date 8 Dec 1830 include 'Charles Frederick North, Bond, Cadet, Military Seminary, Amount of security: £200, Sureties: Michael Blood, Mount St, Grosvener Square, Surgeon; Robert M Grindlay, Cornhill, Merchant'.  Michael Blood is probably Charles' mother's brother Michael (1795 - 1831) (Burke).  As second entry with a start date 1815 includes 'Maj-Gen, Bombay Eng & RE; Phillimore IV p. 459; d 22 Nov 1906 UK' (SP email 2 Dec 2008).  He is recorded in H G Hart's annual army lists in 1863 ('no details': EN email 14 Mar 2010)

7a Edith A North, b c1868, unmarried in 1901

7b Alice F North, b 1871 (aged 2 months at census), unmarried in 1901

5e ?Henry North (Bainbridge), '88th Regiment' (Bainbridge).  There is no mention of a Henry among the 'only children' of Charles and Anne in deed 429 501965 of 1818

5f ?John E North, 'surgeon in the army' (Bainbridge).  There is no mention of a John among the 'only children' of Charles and Anne in deed 429 501965 of 1818, so Bainbridge may have this wrong.  There were several Norths living in Peters Row, Dublin, in the 1820s including one or more John Norths, but these were painters and builders and seem unlikely to be this John E North, and have been put in the unplaced Norths.  One of them did marry Charlotte Homan, daughter of P Homan, on 14 May 1818, and this John E North, if correctly placed here, had a cousin, 5a William North (below) m 19 Apr 1806 Maria Homan, daughter of Richard Homan (son of Philip Homan of Westmeath), so there is a possible Homan connection.  Possibly this is John North of Heathfield, Co Westmeath, and Summerhill, Co Dublin, of deed 534 129 349561 of 1799, deed  546 390 360324 of 26 Feb 1802, and deeds 557 157 369549 of 1 and 2 July 1803, but that John North has also been put in the unplaced Norths for now as there is not enough information to place him.]

4d Roger North of Guilford (16.4.5), and perhaps of Ballycristal, Kings Co (see deeds relating to his brother Charles above), d 1790 (16.4.2) (16.4.5), will pr 1791 (Vicars prerogative wills), m Elizabeth Macky (16.4.5, SP3) and had issue.  Betham's extract of his will reads, '18 North Roger of Guilford Co Westmeath Gent - dated 11th July 1787 pd 19th Jany 1791 - wife Elizabeth - daur Mary Jane - Brother in law Robert Macky - Brother Richard North' (EN email 25 Apr 2008)

5a Mary Jane North (16.4.5) or Maria North (SP3)

4e Philip North (16.4.2) or Phillipe North of Newcastle (Book 352 Ref 240067 28 Oct 1778, EN email 24 Oct 2007), d before 1819 (Book 429 Ref 501965, 29 Dec 1818 refers to 'the late Phillipe North, deceased' (EN email 24 Oct 2007)) m(1) 1756 (doubtful date: Sarah Pilkington was probably only born c1752) Sarah Pilkington of Tore (SP1), b c1752, d at Moylary Glebe on 30 Nov 1831 in the 80th year of her age, relict of the late Philip North Esq of Sallyville, Co Westmeath (Westmeath Journal), daughter of Abraham Pilkington and Mary Shaw (23.2.1) (no issue); m(2) 1786 (ML) or 1787 (record in National Archives: EN email 18 Apr 2009) Mary Turner (SP1) and had issue.  Sarah outlived her husband, so they must have divorced to allow Philip to marry the second time; or (more likely?) the order of his marriages is wrong.  Deed 528 539 347680 of 27 Sept 1800 probably concerns this Philip North - his wife is a Pilkington, as is the wife of his brother Charles.  The parties to the deed are Thomas Cuffe of Dublin, 1st part; Wm Low Pilkington, Officer in his Maj Service, & Philip North, 2nd part; and Charles North and his wife, 3rd part - Tho Cuffe for £1000 paid to Charles North did grant bargain --- to Wm Low Pilkington & Philip North lands of Killbeg and Thilbegg?, formerly in possession of Tanus Clark, containing 300 acres approximately in the Parish of Horseleap, Barony of Moycashel, Westmeath, during natural lives of Thomas Cuffe, John Green? and Wm Tluler? - terms and conditions (EN email 19 Oct 2008).  Kilbeggan appears elsewhere in this narative as a home of Henry Pilkington, but it may not be the same place as Killbeg.  Philip North and William Low Pilkington appear together again in a further deed, which definitely identifies Philip's brother Charles: Deed 529 367 347681 of 20 Mar 1800 concerns Harvey Pilkington of Toar, eldest son at law Abraham Pilkington late of Toar, 1st part; Charles North of Dublin and Anne North otherwise Pilkington, his wife, 2nd part; Wm Low Pilkington of London and Philip North, 3rd part; and Edw Croker of Dublin, 4th part - Harvey Pilkington, William Low Pilkington and Philip North, with consent of Charles North and Anne, for sum of £1000 paid by Ed Croker did sell towns and lands of Dunboden situate in [barony of] Fartullagh; conditions etc in articles 1916 Jan 1781 (EN email 19 Oct 2008).  This transaction is referred to in deed 533 156 352064 of 30 Sept 1800, which also refers to Henry Pilkington Toar (EN email 19 Oct 2008).  Philip and his son William inherited 123 acres of Clonfad from Philip's uncle, 3i William North of Clonfad, in 1800 (see deed 559 539 377072).  A Philip North was appointed church warden at Easter 1787 (Vestry Books from Parishes Newtown & Castletown Church, Barony Fartullagh, National Archive MFC1 55, EN email 24 May 2009): he may be this Philip North.  The Kings Inns Admission Papers 1607 – 1867 (Irish Manuscripts Commission 1982: EN email 21 Sep 2009) record North, Philip, Attorney Exchequer, 1780: he also might be this Philip North: his uncle, 3i William North of Clonfad, was an attorney in the Court of Exchequer; but there is nothing else pointing to Phillipe being an attorney - he is not referred as such in any of the deeds - so if he was admitted it looks like he did not pursue a career at the bar

5a William North of Clonfad, probably alive in 1848 (see 6b Sarah below), m 19 Apr 1806 (Faulkner's Journal) Maria Homan (SP3), daughter of Richard Homan (16.4.7) (a son of Philip Homan of Westmeath: SP3), and had issue.  Deed 579 278 391528 is their marriage settlement, dated 5 April 1806: between William North of the City of Dublin, 1st part; Richard Homan and Maria Homan, spinster, City of Dublin, 2nd part; & Richard Crofton and Henry Morley 3rd part; marriage of Wm North and M Homan is intended; William granted to Maria, in case she should survive him, a jointure of £50 a year payable out of lands of Clonfad, Westmeath, which were bequeathed to William by the will of William North formerly of Clonfad, from William's death in lieu and barr of all dower and thirds (EN email 22 Jan 2009; CN email 28 Jul 2009).  Deed 1806 285 391571 is dated 10 days later, 15 Apr 1806.  In it, William North granted a yearly rent charge of £40 payable out of Clonfad to trustees James Walsh and John Johnson to hold in favour of Mrs Sarah North, William's mother, for the term of her natural life (CN email 3 Jul 2010).  Deed 566 538 385918 of 18 July 1805 is a mortgage: Philip North & William North his eldest son, both of Queen St, Dublin; & Henry Morley, Blackhall St, Dublin - Philip and William obtained £502/14/3 (on an account already owing, and with a clause for further borrowings) from Henry Morley giving a mortgage over lands of Clonfad, 123 acres, leased from the Lord Bishop of Meath, as security, subject to redemption (EN email 22 Jan 2009; CN email 20 Nov 2009).  Deed 631 314 434002 of 8 Feb 1811 is a conveyance: Wm North of Dublin and Henry Morley did grant bargain – ref lands of Clonfad, Tyrrellspass to Mullingar road, 123 acres & bogs, in [barony of] Fartullagh (EN email 8 Sep 2008; this 123 acres of Clonfad came from William North of Clonfad through his will: see deed 559 539 377072).  Henry Morley & Ann Bonynge, marriage bond, 1787, Meath (CPR 1922 WW43).  Thoms 1817 Dublin directory lists a William North Esq of 69 Blessington St, Dublin, as 'Nob & Gentry'

6a Henry Morley North b c1809 Isle of Mann, baptised 23 Feb 1809 at St Mathews, Douglas, Isle of Mann, d 5 Oct 1869 from stomach cancer at Dublin Castle, aged 58, William P North present at death (death certificate: SP email 1 Dec 2007; IGI: SP email 8 May 2010), m in England c1838 Alicia (SP email 14 Feb 2008) b 1814, d 3 Apr 1858 (SP4, IGI) and had issue

7a William Philip North, b 28 May 1840, d 2 Sep 1895 aged 56 at Clontarf, unmarried, civil service examiner (SP4, SP emails 19 Jan & 14 Feb 2008).  In deed 1875 54 260 of 16 Dec 1875, William Philip North of Drumcondra Terrace, Dublin, conveys to Adam Richard Williams of Charlotte St Dublin, Samuel Westley Handy of Springfield House Philipstown and Emily Handy otherwise Emily Williams his wife, Edward Percy Stokes of Barrow-in-Furness in England and Maria Ellen Stokes otherwise Maria Ellen Williams his wife, and Gertrude Frances Handy otherwise Gertrude Frances Williams of Springfield, his one eighth share of 10 Castle St,  Parish of Saint Werburgh, Dublin, in the same proportions as they already held the other seven eighth shares (CN email 21 Jun 2010) (Castle St was the address of several unplaced Norths in the 1659 census).  Deed 1878 44 106 of Sep 1878 concerns Wm Philip North of 2 Drumcondra Tce, Dublin, and the Irish Civil Service Building Society, re a plot of land at St Lawrence Road, Killester, parish of Clontarf (EN email 27 Sep 2008).  Deed 1879 10 177 of 27 Feb 1879: from William Philip North, Drumcondra Tce, Dublin, to Alward Owen Blood O’Connor, Upr Leeson St, Dublin - re 54 Gt Britain St, inc shop, Dublin (EN email 11 Feb 2009).  Deed 1885 21 247 of 21 Apr 1885 between William Philip North of Woodville, St Lawrence Rd, Clontarf, Dublin; and Thomas Bermingham of Prussia St  Dublin - fee farm grant ref premises at Prussia St, Cabra Lane, Grangegorman known as 12 & 13 Prussia St, cattle, carriages etc, except 9 perches taken by Asylums for the Lunatic Poor in Ireland 1869 for Richmond District Lunatic Asylum, Dublin; witness Aylward Owen Blood O’Connor, 3 Nasau St, & others (EN email 27 Feb 2009).  Deed 1895 13 208 of 2 Mar 1895 mentions William Philip North of Clontarf, mortagee, 3^rd part, and Florence North of Eglinton Rd, Bray, spinster [not placed]; also Jack C North [John Charles North] of Woodville, Clontarf, re 25 & 26 Main St, Bray, to McFarland (EN email 4 Mar 2009).  Only Florence North in the tree is a daughter of Joseph Pim North: she was alive (b 1878 so aged c17 in 1895), but it is not clear why she would be connected

7b George Bartholemew North, b c1841, d 7 Feb1912 aged 72, 'collector', gas inspector, of Castle Yard m in Dublin 11 Jan 1866 Sarah Marie Dagge or Sarah Maria Dagge, minor, also of Castle Yard, daughter of John Dagge, clerk, (SP4; St Bride parish records, Dublin) and had issue.  He was a mechanic when he married (SP email 19 Jan 2008).  The 1911 Dublin census says he was a boarder, widower, retired gas inspector, born in Dublin, aged 70.  Sarah Maria Dagge seems to have had a brother, Robert Henry Dagge, m 4 Mar 1862 Elizabeth Caroline Bagnall, witness William P North (Rathmines parish records, Dublin)

8a Frederick William North, b 22 Sep1868 in Dublin, d 17 Jun 1874 (SP4, IGI) at Salem Lodge, Drumcondra (SP email 7 May 2008)

8b Henry Morley North, b 28 Nov 1870 from 6 Drumcondra Terrace West, Dublin (St George parish records), d 24 May 1953 in Flushing, Queens Co, New York, m in Clontarf 22 Jan 1898 Mary Holm Wallace and had issue (IGI).  H Morley North, Woodville, St Laurence Rd, Clontarf (Thoms Directory, 1896: EN email 26 Jan 2010).  1900 New York census records Henry, Mary, Edith and William living in Queens.  The 1910 census records them plus Kenneth and John living in Queens (SP email 18 Nov 2008).  Deed 1898 83 184 of 26 Nov 1898 between Henry Morley North of 250 West Twenty Fourth St, New York, America, gent and John Charles North of Woodville, St Laurence Rd, Clontarf, Dublin, gent, 1st part; and Elizabeth Ledbetter of 21 Essex Quay, Dublin, widow, other part - concerns assignment of  lands described in 11 Oct 1877 (999 year lease) and 27 Sep 1898 deeds, part of lands of Killester situated on the east side of St Laurence Rd, Barony of Coolock and known as Woodville, aforesaid.  Henry signed per power of attorney to Robert J Henchy (EN email 2 Mar 2009; CN email 28 Dec 2009)

9a Edith Mary North, b 22 May 1898 in New York, d 19 Aug 1980, New York

9b William Philip North b Dec 1899 in New York, d 28 Sep 1915

9c Kenneth Wallace North, b 1901 in New York, d 1952

9d John North

9e Gerald North, b Apr 1904 in New York, d 21 Jul 1904

9f Elizabeth Corbett North, b 3 Apr 1914 in New York, d 3 Jun 1974

8c John Charles North, b 28 Nov 1872 in Dublin, baptised 4 Apr 1873 from Salem Lodge, Drumcondra (St George parish records, Dublin), d 19 Dec1939 (IGI), living in London in 1912 (SP4), present at his father's death (death cert: SP email 19 Jan 2008).  Mentioned in deed 1895 13 208 (above) as Jack C North of Woodville, Clontarf; and in deed 1898 83 184 of 26 Nov 1898 (above)

8d Edith Geraldine North b 24 Nov 1866 in Dublin (IGI), d 15 Nov 1941 (IGI), dau of inspector in gas company, m from St Lawrence Road, Clontaf, Dublin, 24 May 1890 Robert John Henchy of 3 St James Terrace, Sandymount, Woodville, collector, b c1862, son of Robert John Henchy, gent (marriage certificate: SP email 8 May 2008; Clontarf parish records)

8e Evelyn Maude North b 18 Mar 1885 (sic) in Dublin (IGI); Evelyn Maude Beatrice Louisa North, b 18 Mar 1885, baptised 28 May 1885, dau of George Bartholomew North Esq and Marie Sarah North, Woodville, St Laurence Road, Clontarf (Clontarf parish records, Dublin)

7c Henry Ulysses North, b 1844, baptised 28 Jul 1844 (SP4, SP email 14 Feb 2008)

7d Frederick Richard North, b 2 Sep 1848, d 9 Apr 1877 (SP4, SP email 14 Feb 2008).  Frederick Richard North died 4 Apr 1877 at age 30. He was unmarried. He was a clerk.  William P North present at death. Address 2 Drumcondra Terrace, North Dublin (death certificate: SP email 18 Apr 2008)

7e Alice North, b 1849 (SP4)

7f Charles Joseph North, b 1851, d 1932 (SP4)

7g Sarah Letitia North or Sarah Letotoa North, of Dublin Castle m 4 Aug 1864 Joseph Charles Field, commercial clerk of 77 G Brunswick St, Dublin, son of Joseph Charles Field, a clerk in the general post office (SP4; SP email 5 Feb 2008; St Mark parish records, Dublin)

6b Sarah North, m 30 Jul 1848 in the Parish Church of St George, Dublin, Joseph Field, widower, writing clerk, of 15 Portland Place North, Georges Parish, son of William Field, gent.  Henry Morley North was a witness to the marriage and it looks as if their father William North, gent, was still alive (marriage cert: SP email13 Jun 2008; St George parish records, Dublin). 

5b Philip North (SP3; SP email 25 Oct 2007).  Perhaps the Philip North of Dublin who witnessed deed 1784 352 240067 of 28 Oct 1778 (above).  May be the Philip North Ensign in the Royal Longford Militia 12 Aug 1811, Lieutenant 25 Sep 1811, removed to 44th Regiment 21 Aug 1813 (A Short History of the Royal Longford Militia, quoted at Longford Ancestry).  Dublin directories list Philip North, Captain, at Anneville Cottage, Carysfort, Blackrock, from 1840 to 1846, and at 16 Summerhill Parade in 1847 (EN email 8 Feb 2010).  He may be the Philip North who appears in the 1851 English census return for Liverpool, aged 60 (so b c1791), unmarried, Captain (half pay) Army, b Ireland (SP email 23 May 2008).  Bainbridge says he was a Captain in the 86th Regiment

5c Thomas North (SP3, Bainbridge).  Mentioned as third son of Philip North in deed 1805 566 538 385918, which he witnessed (CN email 20 Nov 2009)

5d Ulysses North of Co Longford (Bainbridge), m Anne Parker (SP emails 3 & 4 Apr 2008) and had issue.  He was noted as a Lieutenant on his son Ulysses' baptismal record.  Longford Ancestry quotes A Short History of the Royal Longford Militia as saying a Ulysses North was Ensign in the Royal Longford Militia 9 Aug 1809, Lieutenant 11 Mar 1809 [sic: one would expect the dates to be the other way around] and died 1842.  Pigot and Co's Provincial directory of 1824 lists Ulysses North, Esq, Royal Longford Militia, Artillery Barracks.  The Treble Almanack containing John Watson's Stewart's Almanack lists Mr Ulysses North as Gaoler of the Longford Gaol in 1832.  A list of the Longford Official Authorities in From Ireland lists Mr Ulysses North as Governor of the Gaol in 1834 (SP email 18 Apr 2008).  Three sons of Ulysses and Anne have been found, but after them the family disappears from the records (SP email 31 Jan 2009).  A Ulysses North, Esq, is listed at 21 Portland St in a 1836 Dublin directory, and at Seafort Ave, Sandymount, suburban Dublin, from 1840 to 1842 (EN email 4 Feb 2010)

7a James Haviland North, b 5 Dec 1814, christened 16 Dec 1814 at St Johns Church, Templemichael, Longford, Ireland (Longford Ancestry quoting IGI - SP email 4 Apr 2008)

7b Ulysses Parker North, b 11 Dec 1818, baptized 23 Dec 1818 at St Johns Church, Templemichael, Longford, Ireland (Longford Ancestry quoting IGI), buried 4 Mar 1837 as Ulisses Parker Northe at St Mark COI, Dublin, when he was of Hamilton Row (church records: SP email 17 Jul 2010)

7c Philip William North, b c1818 (which suggests he was a twin of Ulysses Parker North).  His TCD entry is Pen (Mr Irwin) 17 Oct 1835 aged 17 s of Ulysses, Miles; b Longford  (SP emails 16 & 17 Apr 2008; Longford Ancestry quoting Alumni Dublinenses)

5e ?Sarah North.  Sarah is known only through deed 1805 577 286 387121 of 29 Aug 1805, an indented deed of settlement made between James Walsh of the city of Dublin esquire of the first part, Sarah North and William North of Clonfad in the county of Westmeath esquire [2nd part] and Henry Walsh of the city of Dublin esquire of the third part: reciting that a marriage is intended between the said James Walsh and Sarah North the said [deed] did witness that in consideration of said marriage and in order to make a provision by way of jointure for Sarah in case she should survive James, granted and assigned unto William North and Henry P Walsh in their actual possession being by virtue of a bargain and sale therein recited and the survivor his heirs & assigns all his estate and interest in the lands of Ballybursey otherwise Baucetown and also the lands of Kelliten and Monane Kirty in the county of Waterford in trust to permit said James Walsh and his assigns to receive the rents and profits for life and after his decease to pay said Sarah North and her assigns if she survives him £100 sterling yearly for life in bar of dower; witnessed by the Rev Alexander Nicholson of Delgany, Co Wicklow, clerk, and Philip North of the city of Dublin (CN email 23 Jun 2009).  William and Philip may be her brothers (normally her father would have been a party with her if he was available, but William is in this instance so Philip the witness is probably her brother rather than her father), and she may well be named after her mother, Sarah Pilkington

5f ?Mary Ann North, m Rev Alexander Nicholson.  The evidence for Mary Ann, and her placement here, is in two deeds. Deed 579 284 391570 of 5 Apr 1806 is a memorandum of an indenture deed of rent charges whereby William North of Dublin undertakes to pay £40 annuity as bequeathed out of lands of Clonfad under the will of William North of Clonfad, deceased, to Mary Ann North of Dublin and her assigns for the term of her natural life, payable annually at the Royal Exchange, Dublin (EN email 30 Apr 2009).  And in Deed 1845 3 53 of 8 Feb 1845, Mary Ann North and her husband Rev Alexander A Nicholson of Moylary Glebe, Co Louth, clerk, sold the annuity (£40 out of Clonfad) to Richard Summers of Tyrrellspass (CN email 27 Jun 2009).  Alexander Nicholson witnessed the settlement of Sarah North (deed 1805 577 286 387121 of 29 Aug 1805).  Sarah is tentatively placed as a sister of William North, and the connection via Alexander Nicholson suggests that Mary Ann may also be a sister in this family.  In 1845 Mary Ann and her husband are of Moylary Glebe, which is where the family's mother, Sarah Pilkington, died on 30 Nov 1831.  So Mary Ann's placement here is not certain, but seems likely

4f Mary North m Cane (16.4.2).  Mentioned in her father's will

4g Margaret North m John Bonynge (16.4.2).  Mentioned in her father's will.  Thoms directory of 1786 lists Bonynge and Jenkins, apothecaries, 6, College Green, Dublin (EN email 17 Aug 2009).  Burke's Landed Gentry, 9th edn, lists John Bonyne of Habsburg, Co Westmeath m Margaret North of Newcastle, Co Westmeath, and had issue.  He was a son of Bonynge of Ballintobber, Co Longford (EN email 21 Sep 2009).  Henry Morley & Ann Bonynge, marriage bond, 1787, Meath (CPR 1922 WW43): could be related.  Burke lists their children as:

5a Mary Bonynge, m John Kelly of Kellysbrook

5b George Bonynge m Catherine Roche, Ennis, Co Clare

5c John North Bonynge of Ballintobber, Co Longford

4h Susanna North (16.4.2) or Susannah North (16.4.5) m Thomas Collins.  Deed 289 29 183108 of 1770 (EN email 12 March 2008) records the marriage of Susanna North, 3^rd daughter of  Roger North, late of Newcastle, to Thomas Collins, Dublin. Under the will of her father she gets £600 provided she marry with the consent of Ulysses North, Newcastle, and William North, Clonfad.  16.4.5 suggests Susanna married Robert Macky, on the basis that she was an unnamed and not otherwise married sister, but as she was married to Thomas Collins, there is no reason to suppose Robert Macky married her rather than any other sister

4i Joseph North.  Mentioned as a son of Roger North in deed 321 10 211494 in relation to the 6 Apr 1757 lease of Lisaura from Judge Rochfort to Roger North (CN email 17 Apr 2009).  May also be the witness Joseph North of Brackland in deed 331 418 222604

3b Richard North, named in his father's will, had daughters.  Richard is also mentioned as a son of Joseph North in deed 1726 50 54 32031 in the Registry of Deeds dated 7 & 8 Jun 1726, registered on 9 Jun 1726, a memorial of an indenture of lease [7 Jun] and release [8 Jun] between Joseph North and Mary North of Newcastle in the County of Westmeath Gent of the one part and Roger North of the City of Dublin Gent of the other part by which indenture of release the said Joseph in consideration of one hundred and two pounds did grant bargain & sell unto the said Roger all that and those the town and lands of Newcastle in Co Westmeath to hold unto the said Roger North and his heirs and Afs [assigns] during the lives of Richard North son of the said Joseph North [,] Mary North and Caleb North son & daughter of Roger North senr (EN email 27 Jan 2010), witnesses John North of Kilbride, Westmeath and Henry Abernathey of same place [= Henry Abernethy? - John North of Tyrrellspass and Kilbride (Whitewell), b 1707, m 1730 Margaret Abernethy b 1710: if this is John North the witness it seems he was under 21 and not yet married at the time] (CN email 8 Mar 2009)

3c Philip North (16.4.2) d 1772 at Tubberbonny (will 1772 - Vicars prerogative wills and Betham), Dublin, m at St Michans, Dublin, on 23 Aug 1735, Eleanor Connor or Elinor Connor (SP email 16 Mar 2008, SP1, SP3, SP8) d 1776 (Vicars prerogative wills and Betham) and had issue (SP email 21 Mar 2008).  Betham's extract of Philip's will reads, '255 North Philip of Tubberbonny[?] Co Dublin Gent - Dated 24th June 1772 - pd 2nd Sep 1772 - wife Elinor - Sons Roger - Emor - and John - daur Rachel wife of Mr Foliat Magrath Mercht[?] - Brother William North - Sister Susanna Smith - niece[?] Mary and William, Children of same - Brother Richard North - Sister Anne White - Brother Roger North -'.  Betham's extract of Eleanor's will reads, '292 Eleanor North of Dublin widow - Dated _ of Feb 1776 pd 9th July 1776 - husband Philip North - Grandson Philip Magrath, - son of daur Rachel, wife of Mr Folliolt[?] Magrath of Dublin Merchant - Son John -' (EN email 25 Apr 2008).  Deed 290 578 196434 of 29 June 1761 refers to two properties, one in Arran St and one in Ormand Square, Dublin.  The deed recites two deeds of 13 Nov 1735  in which Lord Cashell made over the lands to Ralph Leland, glass grinder of Dublin, now deceased; in a deed dated 13 Apr 1756, Ralph Leland, Richard Leland and Captain John Leland, children and residual legatees of Ralph Leland senior, and the executors of the estate of Ralph Leland senior, including Rev John Leland, doctor of divinity, made over the lands to Adam Strean; then by deed dated 9 May 1758 Adam Strean and his son and heir Johnas Strean made over the lands to Philip North of Dublin, tallow chandler. The deed itself sets out an agreement by Philip North, tallow chandler, to make the various deeds, particularly the 1756 deed, available to Elinor Strean, daughter and executor of Adam Strean, the better to evidence her title in the premises in any court hearing . . . (EN email 7 Sep 2008; CN email 14 Jun 2010 - missing the end of the transcript, so we may not know the full story).  Deborah Leland married Roger North of Whitewell in 1760.  Deed 275 602 182506 of 24 July 1770 records that Philip North of Dublin, tallow chandler did demise unto Thos Rotherary, tallow chandler, all dwellings and warehouses etc at Strand St, Dublin, for 61 years from 20 July for £60 per year, present Emor North, witnessed 4 Aug 1770 (EN email 21 Jun 2008).  This Philip North of Tubberbonny is the right age to have been retiring from business in 1770 and had a son Emor, but the description gent in his will does not suggest he was a tallow chandler.  If he is the Philip who let a house to Wm Gargan in deed 490 380 315018, however, he might have been as much merchant as gent.  Philip North is in Watsons Almanac and Directory from 1761 to 1770 (EN email 26 Jan 2010).  Deed 303 446 201828 of 30 Sep 1774: Eleanor North widow and executor of Philip North late of Tubberbonny Co Dublin 1st part; Daniel Heatly of Newtown, Dublin, includes Olivia Hunter widow, money owned to Eleanor £213 re mortgage on towns and lands at Newtown, 115 acres, Barony Coolock, Co Dublin (EN email 17 Aug 2008).  Dublin directories in 1738 and 1753 list Philip North, chandler, at Arran St, Dublin; from 1761 to 1770 he is listed at Strand St (EN emails 21 Sep 2009; 4 Feb 2010)

4a Roger North (named in his father's will but not his mother's).  A Roger North m Catherine Davies 1767 (ML) and it seems he is this Roger. The Records of Augusta County, Virginia (USA) record a tombstone in Staunton, Virginia, which reads 'Roger North died Oct 17 1776 born city of Dublin. Arrived in this colony 1771. A fond father, an affectionate husband, and the sincerest friend.'  Records indicate that the family possesses a Georgian Silver cup that he brought over with the North crest. Records note he married Catherine Davis Law, neice and ward of Bishop Law (the first bishop of Clonfert and then Killala and then Elphin, d Dublin 1810).  Roger's son Philip North b Ireland 14 Nov 1767, m 19 March 1792 Margaret Abney of Augusta Co, Virginia. Their only son John A North b 15 Dec 1794 m July 1819 Charlotte Blair. His grandaughter Martha Caldwell (alive in 1927) lived in Lewisburg, West Virginia and had old family letters in which it was indicated that Philip had revisited England and Ireland three times to collect money from the North and Law estates (SP emails 30 Apr 2008 and 25 Mar 2009, drawing on a Caleb Brewster note); that would fit with Philip North d 1772 and his wife Eleanor Connor d 1776 being Roger of Virginia's parents.  Roger's absence from Eleanor's will (as the Virginia Roger was still alive when the will was made) might be explained if he had settled money matters with the family following the death of his father Philip in 1772.  That the Virginia Roger named his son Philip also points, though not strongly, to Philip being Roger's father.  Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia: Extracted from the Original Court Records of Augusta County 1745-1800 (three volumes; Genealogical Pub Co, 1980) records (SP email 28 Mar 2009): August 1793: North vs Mathews.  Catherine Mathews, wife of Sampson Matthews was first widow of Roger North, then widow of Edward Park. Roger North died in the fall of 1776 leaving a will which Catherine could not find and she took out administration. Philip was the only surviving heir to Roger North. She married Edward Park in the fall of 1777 and Edward died Dec (or July) of 1780. Catherine took out administration on Edward’s estate in Henraco County. Roger owned a tan yard. Affidavit by Catherine 1793. Catherine married Sampson Mathews in June 1783.  August 20 1783: Philip, orphan of Roger North, chooses Sampson Mathews as guardian. 

5a Philip North, b Ireland 14 Nov 1767, m 19 Mar 1792 Margaret Abney of Augusta Co, Virginia (Descendants of Edmund Abney Sept 2005), and had issue.  Deed 1790 516 50 336163 is a complex deed dated 15 Sep 1790 in which Philip North of Virginia, America, but then resident in Dublin, conveyed buildings and land in Little Strand St and Barry St, Dublin, lately in the possession of Philip North chandler deceased [presumed here to be Philip's grandfather], to John Hawkins as trustee with the intention of 'baring docking defeating and destroying all estates tail and all reversions and remainders thereupon,' and it was agreed that William Martin was to sue a writ of entry sur disseisin en lepost to the premises, and a fine sur conuzance de droit come ceo was to be dealt with (CN email 30 Jul 2009).  Deed 1794 474 531 305252 of 1 Apr 1794 is another complex deed in which Philip in consideration of £100 added to an existing lease and mortgage agreement (dated 1789) re premises in Greens Alley, Barry St, Dublin, made over the remainder of a £60 annuity to Margaret O'Brien for the rest of her life, at the end of which Philip was to get back both the premises and the annuity.  The deed was signed by Edward North under power of attorney for Philip (CN email 11 Mar 2010).  In 1799 Philip was back in Dublin: in deed 1799 520  340469 of 12 Jul 1799, he assigned to Jonothan Rice, stationer of Dublin, two fields in Co Dublin, one known as ?park and the other as Woodfield, being part of the town & lands of Ballymolehanstown, otherwise Murphystown, 15 ac 2 rds 30 pchs, lately held by Philip and Emor North under a lease for 12 years renewable made to Philip North by James M Davies on 5 Mar 1799 (CN email 14 Sep 2009)

6a John A North, b 15 Dec 1794, only son, m July 1819 Charlotte Blair, and had issue. A John A North was the clerk of the Virginia Court of Appeals held at Lewisburg 1832-55 (http://www.wvculture.org/hiStory/mancoll.html) and built John North House; the known facts fit with this John A North (e.g. he was the third generation in America), but he may not be any relation

7a daughter North, m Caldwell

8a Martha Caldwell, alive in 1927, lived in Lewisburg, West Virginia

4b Emor North, named in his father's will but not his mother's. There are at least 3 Emor Norths: this one, his uncle 3e Emor and a cousin, 4b Emor son of Joseph North and Bridget McCabe.  We have found some information on one of the Emor Norths, probably this one.  Emor became an attorney in 1764: Emor North was admitted to the Kings Inns as an attorney in the Exchequer, H [Hilary], 1764 (SP email 16 Apr 2008; EN email 21 Sep 2009) and married in 1769.  His uncle seems too old to have done either of those things on those dates with any probability; and while the other Emor is about the right age he may well have died in 1764, which would count him out too.  Emor North m 1769 Alice Lassall or Alice Lassale (ML).  Deed 515 505 335767 of May 1798 records that Emor North transfered, out of natural love and affection, to Anne North, then aged 21, the only child of said Emor and Alice Lasalls, his wife, one of several parcels of land in Portarlington, Kings and Queens Counties, that Alice Lasalls had inherited from her father, Isaac Lassalls, late merchant of Dublin, and had been placed in trust as part of their 1769 marriage settlement (EN email 2 Mar 2009).  Thoms 1738 places Isaac Lasalle at King St, Dublin (EN email 21 Sep 2009).  The first party to the 1769 settlement was Philip North, so he was almost certainly this Emor's father.  One of the trustees of the 1769 marriage settlement was a William North (no other identification, perhaps Philip's brother, Emor's uncle William of Clonfad).  One of the witnesses to the 1798 deed was Frances North (sic - but deed 515 505 335768 of 1798 in similar terms to deed 515 505 335767, adding a detail, was witnessed by Francis North - either way, this Frances/Francis is a mystery) (EN email 2 Mar 2009).  Deed 442 494 288298 of 1785 (EN email 14 Mar 2008; CN email 9 Mar 2010) records an agreement between Emor North and Alice Lassall to live apart and for Emor to pay maintenance.  Both deeds refer to property at Portarlington.  In deed 199 257 132134 of 15 May 1759, Philip North of Dublin, tallow chandler, leased to Thomas Strong of Dublin, baker, a tenement in Pill Lane in the suburbs of Dublin for 29 years.  The deed was witnessed by Emor North, clerk to the other witness, John Gardiner, gent, one of the attorneys of the court of Exchequer in Ireland.  Could be a second lease, because it was 'in as full and ample manner as Thomas Strong now holds and enjoys the same' (CN email 10 Mar 2009).  In deed 338 143 226576 of 16 Jan 1781 an Emor North demised to Robert Joseph Shutter of Dublin, linens draper, two dwelling house in Ring St, Oxmanstown, Dublin (EN email 7 Sep 2008).  In deed 1792 442 330 287402 of 13 Dec 1791, Emor North assigned a property to Charles White, merchant of Dublin.  The deed was witnessed by Thomas Henrick, clerk to the said Emor North, so it was probably Emor the attorney (CN email 19 Mar 2010).  Deed 490 380 315018 of 22 Jun 1795: between Emor North of Dublin and William Dalton of Pill Lane, merchant - Emor demises to William Dalton all ground whereon the house to let to William Gargan, carpenter, by Philip North, deceased, formerly stood with 2 butchers stalls therein situated in Ormond Market, Dublin City, from 1 March for 186 years (EN email 21 Jun 2008; CN email 19 Mar 2010).  The Emor and Philip in that deed are most likely this Emor and his father.  Deed 496 8 317813 of 13 Nov 1795: Emor North of Crumlin, Dublin, and William Dalton of Pill Lane re lands and houses at Ormond Market, involves Ralph Leland, glassgrinder (EN email 21 Jun 2008) (Ralph Leland is probably a brother of Robert Leland, father of Deborah Leland: SP email 19 Mar 2009; see entry for Emor's father above - deed 290 578 196434)

5a Anne North, b c1777, d c1844, spinster of Dublin 'now aged 21' in May 1798, only child (deed 515 505 335767: EN email 2 Mar 2009).  Anne North left a will, ref 2643 in the National Archives, Dublin (EN email 3 Apr 2008).  The Will Index indicates Anne North died about 1844 (SP email 16 Jan 2008).  Deed 1838 9 264 in the Registry of Deeds records the sale on 14 May 1838 of land and house at Portarlington from Anne North to Henry Hudson for £469 12s 2d (EN email 10 Apr 2008)

4c John North (named in his mother's and father's wills)

4c Rachel North, named in her father's and mother's wills, m Folliolt Magrath or Foliat Magrath or Folliott Magrath, merchant of Dublin and had issue (her mothers will).  Rachel North & McGrath marriage bond, 1759 (CPR 1922 WW24).  Rachel North (McGrath) left a will (Dublin, 1781, CPR 1922 WW13)

5a Philip Magrath

3d Susanna North, named in her brother's will, m Smith and had issue (Betham)

4a Mary Smith (Betham)

4b William Smith (Betham)

3e Emor North, named in his father's will.  See notes re his nephew Emor North

3f Joseph North of Bracklyn (CoN), or of Brackland (16.4.7) b 1716, d c1786 (Vicars prerogative wills), m Bridget McCabe (SP8), and had issue. Betham's extract of his will in the National Archives states, 300 North, Joseph, Brackland, Kings Co, dated 18 Feb 1781 proved 1 Mar 1786 wife Bridget, son Roger (EN email 25 Apr 2008).  In deed 1757 183 433 123376 dated 17 January 1757, Joseph North of Brackland, Kings Co, first part, and William Costigin of Ballyna, Kings Co, 2nd part, grant bargain sell to[?] Joseph North one annuity or yearly rent of £13 land of Ballyteigue Aughagarven, Greenfield, Kings Co, on natural life of Roger North son of Joseph North, - which indenture is witnessed by John Bagnal or Bagot,  Kiltubber, Westmeath, and Mathias Geoghan, Rathhugh, Westmeath (EN email 13 Jun 2010).  Deed 297 634 196482 records a loan of £100 from William North to Joseph North of Brackland and Ulysses North of Newcastle, and the appointment by the said Joseph North of Charles North as his attorney to collect rents and tythes from tenants of Davidstown [Guilford] to discharge the loan.  The deed was witnessed by William North of Clonfad, Roger North of Kings Co and Henry Pilkington of Newcastle (EN email 14 Mar 2008).  A Bracklyn House of late 1700s vintage is listed in the National Inventory of Architectural Heritage.  Bridget North, Dublin, wife of Joseph, obtained 'conformity' on 27 Jul 1745 with the Act to prevent the further growth of  popery 1703 to 1789 (Convert Rolls, Editor Eileen O’Byrne, Extract from Irish Manuscripts Commission 1981 (Dublin City Lib): EN email 21 Jun 2008).  The Religious Census 1766 Parliamentary returns, No 21, Ballycommon, lists Joseph North, protestant, with 5 papist servants, 3 in household (CoI Library, Dundrum: EN email 26 Jun 2009) (no idea whether that is this Joseph North)

4a Roger North of Clonfad (CoN) and Kilduff, Kings Co (SP8) and (in 1786, when his father died) of Brackland (16.4.7) b 1734 (SP8) or 1744 (d 1831 aged 87), d 24 Mar 1831 (SP8), or d about Apr 1831 (deed 1838 7 185), or d 20 Mar 1831 at Kilduff in the King's County aged 87 years (Westmeath Journal), m 12 Dec 1780 or 17 Dec 1780 in Monkstown Barbara Conran of Newtownparke, Co Dublin (parish records St Patricks, Dublin, Parish of Monkstown, page 72: SP email 27 Nov 2007; EN email 4 Nov 2008; Roger North & Conran marriage bond, 1780 (CPR 1922 WW24)), who d after Jun 1834 (alive in deed 1834 14 298 below), ?daughter of James Conran of Mullingar (SP8), and had issue.  Sir Charles Coote’s Statistical Survey of the King’s County, 1801 at page 146 describes the pasture of the county as 'very rich, luxuriant and full of herbage; in some places in the upper parts, equal to feed a bullock of any weight. In the lower half barony, store sheep only are kept, as in the neighbourhood of Croghan Hill, which is esteemed the best store ground for sheep in Ireland. Immediately adjoining Croghan, towards Philipstown, the pasture is light and of inconsiderable extent. Roger North Esq of Kilduff in this neighbourhood and Thomas Berry Esq of Eglish Castle ... occupy almost the entire of the green farms; Mr North has made some choice improvements here in draining, burning and gravelling the moors, which, after producing an abundant crop of rape, give excellent pasture for store cattle, three-fourths of the year. This gentleman has also built an excellent mansion-house, which, with infant plantations in the adjoining grounds, have greatly ornamented this part of the country, and must have had before, a miserable and bleak appearance. In this end of the Barony they are not at all choice in their breed of cattle.  They buy them in at two years at the Connaught Fairs, they store feed them for a year, and then sell to the Meath graziers; and they are equally inattentive to their breed of sheep and horses.'   At page 165 it refers to 'a charitable school, well attended to, under the patronage of Miss North, and subscriptions liberally paid; it is intended to be enlarged, on a more extensive plan' (EN email 26 Jan 2010, forwarding info from Shonagh Love).  There are several deeds concerning this Roger:

• deed 1783 23103, undated but sworn 20 Jan 1783, in which Charles Mills of Tullamore, Kings Co, demises to Roger North of Brackland, Kings Co, part of the lands of Brackland, 100 acres or as shall appear by survey, for the term of 4 years rent free [as rent is being paid by tenants for that period] and then for the remainder of a term of 21 years at a rent of nine shillings per acre; witnessed by Thomas Higgins & Philip North of Dublin (CN email 11 Jun 2010)

• a Roger North of Brackland was a trustee in the 1786 marriage settlement of John North and Anne Bomford (16.3.1); but that Brackland is said in the memorial of the marriage settlement to be in Westmeath, while the Roger and Joseph Norths above are from Brackland, Kings Co.  There is no other known connection between the Norths and Brackland, Co Westmeath so it could be a clerical error, but on the other hand John North who married Anne Bomford is a decidedly distant relative of this branch of the Norths so it is not clear why this Roger would have been chosen as trustee.  The connection may have been Clonfad, which was also a Bomford property.  At this stage, whether there was another Roger, Roger of Brackland, Co Westmeath, as well as Roger of Brackland, Kings Co, and Clonfad, Co Westmeath, is uncertain.  If there was, he might be Roger of Birr, brother of John North who married Anne Bomford (EN email 16 Sep 2009)

• Deed 433 338 203591 of 1791 records that Roger North, Kilduff, did demise house and lands of Merrymount and Lords Bog, Barony Moycashel, during the natural lives of Roger North, and Jas McCabe of the Island of Jamaica, brother [in law] to the said Roger North.  James McCabe is also mentioned in deed 200 338 133388

• Deed 483 389 315207 is between Roger North of Kilduff Kings Co and Abraham Pilkington of Tore Lodge Westmeath: on 1 Dec 1784 Pilkington mortgaged Rathgarret, Fartullagh, Co Westmeath, to North; on 24 Mar 1790 Pilkington conveyed Rathgarret (alias Athgarret alias Ring) to North, but 'the deed and title convey[ed] thereby were found insufficient'; by the present deed of 2 Jun 1795 North conveys Rathgarret to Pilkington for a consideration of 5 shillings (EN email 21 Jun 2008; CN email 7 Aug 2009) (see also deed 706 185 483720).  These appear to re a mortgage, but the directions of transfer of the land are inconsistent

• Deed 1795 75 315973 of 30 Jun 1795 is a mortgage by Abraham Pilkington to Roger North of Kilduff of Kathgarrett/Ashgarrett/Kyng Rathgarrett, 160 acres plantation profitable land for £490 to be repaid on or before 30 October next ensuing (CN email 26 Aug 2009)

• Deed 1838 7 185 recites that by lease indenture of 4 Jun 1796 Charles William Bury demised unto the said Roger North all lands of Cloneen, Cloonagh and Mullagharush, ~298 ac, situate in the lower half Barony of Philipstown, King’s Co to hold for the lives of William North, James North, and Roger North sons of the said lessee or for the term of 31 years subject to £158/8/- of the then currency

• Deed 549 380 364188 of 31 Jul 1802,  recites that Wm North late of Clonfad, Westmeath, by deed of 15 May 1798 made his will, and on 31 Aug 1800 died, and thereby bequeathed to his nephew the said Roger North that part of the lands of Clonfad lying on the east side of the road leading from Tyrrellspass to Mullingar now in the possession of said Roger North

• In deed 618 26 423021 of 19 Dec 1809 Roger North of Dorset St, Dublin, late of Kilduff, Kings Co, paid £775 to John Philips of Dublin City for a tenement on Drumcondra Lane, otherwise Dorset St, reciting a lease of 1783 from Jane Hunter to Henry Lyons, both of Dublin (EN email 4 Mar 2009)

• Thoms 1810 Directory lists Roger North at 26 Upper Dorset St, Dublin

• Deed 636 106 435976 of 1 May 1811 between Roger North of Kilduff, Kings Co, and Edward Naughton of Mullingar other part: ref article of Sep 1810 – lease of land 113 acres (EN email 8 Sep 2008)

• Deed 654 197 450468 of  26 Jun 1807: Roger North of Kilduff, Kings Co, 1st part; and Peter North son of said Roger other part - for consideration mentioned Roger North made over to Peter North yearly rent charge of £50 to be paid and payable out of the town and lands of Clonagh, Barony of Philipstown, Kings Co, etc; witnessed by James Homidge, Dublin, gent; signed by Peter North, witnessed by James Homidge and John Wolfe, City of Dublin, gent (EN email 22 Feb 2009)

• Roger was 'of Parnell Place, Dublin' in deed 647 521 447872 of 12 Aug 1812 (his daughter Hannah's marriage settlement)

• Deed 718 238 490973 of 5 May 1813: Roger North of Parnel Place 1st part and Wm North Capt in His Majesty's 68th Reg Foot other part, said Roger did demise to William North for consideration of rent received from the tenant plus £150 (being an estimate of the second year's rent income) all those parts of the lands of Mullagharush 85 acres leased to John Roach to expire 1 May 1814 and a further 7 acres held by C Chamley without lease, which lands were held by Roger by lease from Lord Charleville, leases to be executed after the lease to John Roach expired.  Witnessed by Peter North of Parnel Place (EN email 14 Oct 2008; CN email 15 Apr 2009).  This appears to be a lease from Roger to his son William for two years, with William paying the rent in advance as a lump sum consideration

• 680 201 468143 of 22 Oct 1814: a deed of annuity.  Roger North heretofore of Kilduff but now of Parnell Place Dublin of the 1st part and Wm Philips Lefanu of Camden St Dub of the other part: Roger North did give Wm P Lafanu annuity on lands at Kilduff  & lands at Clonagh, Barony of Philipstown, payable yearly for natural life of Wm P Lafanu (EN email 8 Sep 2008). Deed 680 204 468146 of 25 Oct 1814 refers same as deed 680 201 468143 but also includes Robert Ball, Christopher Chamley and Rev Thos Lefanu, clerk, wherein Roger North now conforms to the requirements of William Lafanu; Robert Ball seems to take over annuity – includes sums of £1,000 and £2,000 (EN email 8 Sep 2008)

• Deed 708 485 483721 of 12 June 1816: deed of mortgage by Roger North of Kilduff, Kings Co, to Anne Geoghegan spinster of Kilbeggan, Co Westmeath: for £600 secured to Roger North and 5/- in cash, Roger makes over his right and title to lands of Clonfad, Westmeath from 1 Oct next, subject to redemption if Roger pays back the  £600 with interest and costs before then; witnesses Peter North, Stillorgan, Dublin & Roger North, ?York St, Dublin (EN email 7 Sep 2008; CN email 15 Jun 2010) - the witness must be another Roger North

• In deed 706 245 483780 of 9 Sep 1816, a deed of mortgage, Roger North of Kilduff, Kings Co mortgages to Christopher Chamley of Dublin all his right title etc in Clonfad, Co Westmeath, held by him for 21 years at a yearly rent of £15 from the Rt Rev Lewis, Bishop of Meath etc, in consideration of sum of £2,000 --- remaining justly due and owing to him by  Chamley's marriage settlement [Chamley, a barrister, is Roger's son in law - 5f below], with a penal sum of £4,000 and a proviso for payment by 19 Mar next to make the deed null and void; one of the witnesses was Roger North jnr (EN emails 10 Mar & 7 Sep 2008)

• Deed 725 350 295285 records the repayment on 4 Mar 1818 by Roger North to Christopher Chamley of the mortgage of £2,000 over Clonfad, 160 acres, set out in deed 706 245 483780 of 9 Sep 1816, and the reconveyance of Clonfad back to Roger North

• Roger North of Kilduff & Hercules Campbell of ?Calverstown, Co Kildare - said Roger North for the [consideration?] therein mentioned and the sum of ?  paid by H Campbell all part of towns and lands of Calverstown 136 acres – and also that  part of lands of Davidstown commonly called Foss Hill? containing 4 acres and making 141 acres ... payable to said Roger North – witnessed by Wm Leadbetter of Ballytore and Wm Richardson of Athy (deed 715 98 489033 of 18 Sept 1816, EN email 14 Oct 2008)

• In 1818, Roger North of Kilduff, King’s Co was entitled to 160 acres by lease from Lewis, Lord Bishop of Meath; however by deed of 12 Jun 1816, between R North and Anne Geoghegan, North owed Anne Geoghegan £400 and £200 by her joint security with him to Digby Odlum of Bally Britain, King’s Co, making a total £600 (ref deed 708 485 483721 above).  By deed Book 734, Ref 500906 of 14 Mar 1818 North signed over his interest in the said lands, in the presence of Chas Chamley [if 'Chas' Chamley is Christopher Chamley (rather than Charles), he is Roger's mortgagee in deed 706 245 483780 & his son in law] etc (EN email 24 Oct 2007)

• In 1819, Roger North, in consideration of Peter North giving up two £50 life annuities to which he was entitled and other considerations, gave his land at Clonfad, Garryduff, & Clonagh [or Cloonagh] to Miles Bagott [cf Milo Bagot above?] in trust for the use of Roger North's son Peter North subject to an annuity of £50 to Roger North's wife Barbara should she survive him, and following Peter North's death for Caroline North and Barbara North, Peter North's daughters, and if they fail to have issue then to Roger North the younger third son of said Roger North the elder (Book 742, Ref. 505671, 19 Apr 1819).  In the memorial of the deed held by the Registry of Deeds, the date of the deed is recorded as 1719 but the 7 is an alteration of some other number which can no longer be seen (EN email 7 Dec 2007); as the parties were not alive in 1719, it is assumed that the date should be 1819, which is consistent with other dates on the page and the date of the memorial, 9 Jul 1819

• Deed 1829 853  427  570427 is an indented deed of release dated 11 Dec 1829 by Peter North of Gloster St, Dublin, Roger's son, by which Peter releases Roger of his obligation under a deed of rent charge dated 25 June 1807 to pay to Peter £50 pa out of the town and lands of Cloonagh, lower half Barony of Philipstown, Kings Co, in consideration for Roger by deed also dated 11 Dec 1829 assigning and conveying certain leasehold lands unto Robert Staples Smith his exors admors and assigns in trust for the sole use and benefit of the said Roger North [sic] (CN email 6 May 2009).  The certain leasehold lands must actually have been put in trust for the benefit of Peter North or the deed does not make sense

• Deed 867 80 577080: Indenture of lease dated 24 Dec 1830: Roger North of Kilduff Kings Co and Barbara North his wife 1st part and Hubard? Gregg of Oldtown Co Longford other part ... witnessed by Roger North and Barbara for the considerations therein mentioned did demise grant set ... to Hubard? Gregg part of the lands and moors of Kilduff formerly demised by Roger North to Christopher Chamley and subsequently by Chr Chamley to said Barbara North … [list of holdings] ... said Barbara North and William North now a Major in his Maj’s 68th Regt of Foot son of Roger and Barbara – subject to rent etc (EN email 14 Sep 2008); and deed 867 80 577081 which is much the same as deed 867 80 577080 but refers to other holdings demised to Gregg (EN email 14 Sep 2008)

• Deed 1834 14 298 of 7 Jun 1834 is an interesting one: it recites a deed of 11 Dec 1829 in which Roger North, Peter North and Robert Staples say that deed 505671 [(above) was] 'undertaken by mistake and for misconception' and the 'alleged' articles recited in deed 505671 had never in fact existed; and then Barbara North senior, her son Peter's daughters Barbara and Caroline, and Caroline's husband Robert Swift go on to declare that deed 505671 had been 'executed by the said Roger North without the knowledge or privity of the said Peter North & was designed and intended by the said Roger North as a cover or protection against the creditors of him the said Roger North or any proceedings on their part against the said lands'; that articles had been recited 'to give a colour to the trust conveyance or assignment thereby professed to be made'; and they renounce any claim against Peter North and his heirs and successors regarding the lands of Clonfad by virtue of the said articles

5a William North (SP3) b 8 Jul 1783 in Dublin (SP8), d 19 Jul 1872 in Queensland, Australia (SP3), Major in the 68th Regiment of Foot (deed 867 80 577080), m 28 Jun 1806 at Clontarf, Dublin, Sarah Marsh, b 1783 in Ireland, d 3 Apr 1872 in Queensland (Qld BDM, C387), daughter of Francis Marsh d Jan 1829 and Anne Vero (?daughter of Dorothy Ussher and John Vero) (SP8) and had issue.  First of three named sons of Roger North in deed 1838 7 185 (a deed for the purchase of an annuity).  Sarah had brothers Rev Jeremy Marsh and Digby Marsh, and a sister Anne Marsh (SP8).  Deed 1818 731 508 499043 of 16 Mar 1818 is a mortgage of Mullagharush or Mulahurush, 85 ac, and a further part of the lands held without lease by Christopher Chamley, to John Hornridge of Dublin to secure a debt of £100 owed by William North of the 68th Regiment of Foot to John Hornridge, subject to redemption with interest at 6% by Mar 1828 (CN email 7 Aug 2009).  Mullagharush was held by William 'for and during such estate and terms for 2 lives and years as was granted to said Roger North of the said lands by the Earl of Charlenelle rent free'.  Deed 1838 4 39 of 12 Feb 1838 between William North of Oldtown, King’s Co, 1st part & George Symes of Hollybrook Pk, Co Dublin, is a sale from William North to George Symes of Cloneen, Cloonagh & Mullagharush 290 acres etc for £1,500 & a further £550 to Wm North for furniture, utensils etc (CN email 24 Mar 2009).  This may be William selling up to move to Australia

6a Joseph North b 1808 at Stradbally, Ireland, and d 1 Jan 1881 in Queensland (SP8) (Qld BDM).  The IGI records that Joseph Lieutenant North m Robert Dundas Burnett (female) in Edinburgh, Scotland, on 24 Jul 1836.  Joseph North and Robert Dundas Burnett had issue in New South Wales (http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births) (several of these entries were also registered in Qld BDM in 1854) (NSW included Qld until 1859).  Robert Dundas Burnett d in Qld in 1889; her father was John Burnett and her mother Deborah Patterson (Qld BDM).  A guide to the Ipswich General Cemetery Then & Now states 'North family: Joseph North arrived in Australia with his regiment in the 1830s and was followed by his brothers, a sister and his parents Major William and Sarah North. Their properties were Fernie Lawn, Northbrook, Wivenhoe and Bellevue' (SP email 8 May 2008)

7a William John Edward North, b1841 NSW, d Qld 1929 (Qld BDM) m Lucy Chapman and had issue

8a Lucy Dundas North, b 1889, m 1914 William Sidney Page (Qld BDM)

8b Beatrice Sarah North, b 1891, m 1916 Ralph Harvey Goodwin (Qld BDM)

8c Vera Mabel North, b 1893, m 1918 Herbert Polkinghorn Richards (Qld BDM)

8d Burnett William Norris North, b 1895, m 1925 Nellie May Guy (Qld BDM)

8e Arthur George Frederick North, b 1898 (Qld BDM)

8f Joseph North, b 1905 (Qld BDM).  A Joseph North m Mabel Pearl Campbell (1920) and Jane Mary Ellen O'Hanlan (1927) (Qld BDM): either of those might be this Joseph

7b Joseph Roger Burnett North, b 1844 in NSW, d Qld 1914 (Qld BDM)

7c Charles North, b 1846 in NSW, d Qld 1904 (Qld BDM)

7d Deborah North, b 1848 in NSW

7e Robert Dundas North, b 1851 (his birth is registered with Sarah as his mother; Sarah was his grandmother and her name may have been recorded as the mother by mistake), m 1889 Blanche Sarah Thompson (Qld BDM) and had issue

8a Blanche Phyllis North, b 1891, d 1891 (Qld BDM)

8b Robert Charles North, b 1892 (Qld BDM)

8c Francis Rodger North, b 1894 (Qld BDM).  A Francis Roger North m 1929 Margaret May Craddock (Qld BDM)

8d Eleanor Victoria North, b 1897 (Qld BDM)

8e Arthur Joseph North, b 1899, m 1927 Hilda Maud Stodart Gair (Qld BDM)

8f Claud Burnett North, b 1901 (Qld BDM)

8g Blanche Jean North, b 1905 (Qld BDM)

7f Francis North, b 1852 in NSW, d Qld 1929 (Qld BDM)

7g Sarah A North, b 1853 in NSW

7h Arthur North, b 1854 in NSW

7i a son North, b 1858 in Ipswich (Qld)

6b William John Edward North, b 1810 in Ireland (SP8).  In the NSW Archives index of Colonial Secretary's letters relating to land there is a record of correspondence dated 1847 with William John Edward North concerning land in Brisbane.  The correspondence has not yet been seen.  There is no evidence of his death in the Qld or NSW death indexes

6c Francis North, b 1811 in Ireland, d 9 Dec 1864 (Qld BDM, C404, SP email 15 Apr 2008), North Ipswich, Qld, bur 10 Dec 1864, Ipswich, Qld, m(1) 1859 (Qld BDM, C375) Margaret Elizabeth Glissan, b 1840 Tipperary, Ireland, d 27 Mar 1862, Drayton, Qld, bur 28 Mar 1862, Drayton, Qld, daughter of Patrick Glissan and Dorothea Gaing and had issue (Sue Skinner email 23 Apr 2008)

7a Francis William North, b 13 June 1860, Ipswich, Qld, d 1938, m 1893 (Qld BDM B16188) Geraldine Playne Littleton Chubb

7b Arthur Henry North, b 18 March 1862, Ipswich, Qld, d 1941, m 1890 (Qld BDM, C72) Mary Mayne Wilson and had issue.

8a Arthur Francis North, b 1893 (Qld BDM, C10687)

8b Ilsa May North, b 1895 (Qld BDM, C2239) m 1927 Eric Cooke Montgomery Davidson (Qld BDM)

8c Jessie Elizabeth North, b 1896 (Qld BDM, C2136) m 1925 Arthur Richard Sexton (Qld BDM)

8d Dorothy Jean North, b 1898 (Qld BDM, C2164)

8e Myra Glissan North, b 1899 (Qld BDM, C2099) (Glissan is her grandmother's maiden name)

8f Wylie Glissan North, b 1900 (Qld BDM, C10509) m 1928 Veronica Phyllis Mead Kirwin (Qld BDM)

8g Ronald Charles Glissan North, b 1902 (Qld BDM, C10394) m 1925 Clara Meta Rodd (Qld BDM)

8h Colin Glissan North, b 1906 (Qld BDM, C10207)

8i Garnet Glissan North, b 1907 (Qld BDM, C10706)

8j Roger Joseph Glissan North, b 1908 (Qld BDM, C9649)

6c Francis North m(2) in 1862 Ellen Washburn, b c1820 Abbots, Wiltshire, d 4 Oct 1864 (two months before her husband), North Ipswich, Qld, bur 5 Oct 1864, Ipswich, Qld, daughter of Edward Washbourne and Mary Pinniger, and had further issue (Sue Skinner email 23 Apr 2008)

7c a son North, b 1864, Ipswich, Qld

6d Elizabeth North, b 1813 in Ireland, d 26 Jun 1902 in Brisbane, Queensland (SP8), m James Thomas Bell, son of Lt. Archibald Bell, and had issue.  James Thomas Bell was a brother of Archibald Bell, jnr who married Frances Ann North, daughter of Samuel North b 3 Oct 1791.  The family moved to Queensland and descendents now own Coochin Coochin (Sue Skinner email 21 Apr 2008)

7a James Thomas Marsh Bell b at Belmont, Richmond

7b Elizabeth Georgina Bell, b at Belmont, Richmond, d 10 Oct 1847 at Belmont

6e Roger North, Rev, b 5 Apr 1816 in Oldtown, Co Offaly (SP email 22 Apr 2008), d 19 Mar 1895 in Queensland (SP8), m(1), when of 16 Synge St (marriage certificate, SP email 30 Aug 2007; St Peter parish record, Dublin) 15 Dec 1849 in Ireland Matilda Lucy Lyster, b 2 Apr 1827, d 24 Dec 1865 at 4 Ormand Terrace, Rathmines, Dublin, aged 38, from Phthisis [tuberculosis] (death cert (SP email 6 Jan 2008)), daughter of Lyttleton Lyster b 1789 and Charlotte Cameron Limrick the oldest daughter of Rev Paul Limrick, Bishop of Calcutta, India, and had issue (SP email 16 Jan 2008); (Georgina Lyster, m 5d Peter North below, is likely Lyttleton Lyster's sister and Matilda Lucy Lyster's aunt (SP email 4 Oct 2007)).  Deed 1854 26 262 names several of Lucy's relatives; deed 1868 19 292 also concerns her.  Eleven months after his first wife died, Rev Roger North, of 4 Ormonde Tce, m(2) 15 Nov 1866 Ellen Wake (Rathmines parish records, Dublin; witness William Orpwood Wake), b c1829, d 1907 in Queensland (B7639: Qld BDM: SP email 15 Apr 2008) daughter of William Wake and Ellen Orpwood (Qld BDM) and had issue, before going to Australia on the Light Brigade arriving on 30 Mar 1873 (Queensland Archives).  The passenger list for the Light Brigade includes Rev Roger North aged 56, Ellen North 44, Roger North 20, Francis North 14, Frederick North aged 18, Sarah North 16, Henry North 12 and Charles North aged 2.  All of these can be placed with the Rev Roger except for Frederick, b c1855, who has not, so far, been connected: a Frederick William North married Grace Keily in 1893 (C46) and they had a son Frederick Keily Arthur North who died aged 10 months in 1898 (Qld BDM C213); a Frederick North d 1928: his parents were John North and Louisa Ann Bugler (Qld BDM).  Sarah North may be a child of Ellen Wake by another relationship, but she became part of the Rev Roger's family and is named with her husband in Rev Roger's 1893 will (EN email 24 Apr 2008); Sarah Elizabeth North married Alexander Charles Grant in 1879 (Qld BDM C533).  The lists for Trinity College Dublin record North, Roger Pen. (Mr. Geoghagan) July 6, 1835 aged 18 s. of William, Militaris; b. Kings Co. B.A. Vern 1840 M.A. AEst 1846.  Dublin directories list a Rev Roger North or Roger North AM at Ormonde Tce, 5 Richmond Hill, Rathmines, and 9 Trinity College in 1852 and 1853 (EN email 8 Feb 2010).  Thoms also lists in 1856 a Roger North, RM, Royal Navy, and in 1860 a Roger North RM Lieut, Chaplain, under the heading 'Officers Royal Navy & Royal Marines' (CN email 5 Apr 2008).  Those entries would fit this Rev Roger North. On his first wife's death certificate (1865) he is described as Rev Roger North AM TCD; on his second wife's marriage certificate (1866) he is described as a clerk in holy orders (SP email 22 Apr 2008)

7a William Roger North, b 8 Nov 1850, baptised 23 Nov 1851 from 5 Richard Hill (St Peter parish records).  A William R North emigrated to Australia aged 21 in Apr 1870 (so b c1849) on the Maryborough (Queensland Archives), and William Roger North is a beneficiary in Rev Roger's1893 will.  A William Roger North married an Amy Louisa Panton in Queeensland in 1881 (Qld BDM C194: SP email 15 Apr 2008) and had issue

8a Isobel Elsie North, b 1881 (Qld BDM C2945)

8b Eva North, b 1882 (Qld BDM C3252) m 1917 Eric Noyes (Qld BDM) (just possibly Eric's marriage was to the Eva Ethyl North b 1901 (below))

8c William Dudley North, b 1884  (Qld BDM C3758) m 1921 Evelyn Mary Hender (Qld BDM)

8d Cecil Roger North, b 1888 (Qld BDM C6511) m 1914 Winifred Margaret Noyes (Qld BDM) and had issue

9a Roger Thomas North, d 1924 (Qld BDM)

7b Roger North (SP email 16 Jan 2008), b 26 Mar 1852, emigrated to Australia aged 20 in 1873 on the Light Brigade (Queensland Archives), so b c1853, d Qld 1893 (Qld BDM C3033).  A Roger North married a Grace Gibson in Queensland in 1882 (Qld BDM C548) and had issue.  Roger North, b 26 Mar 1852, baptised 2 May 1852, son of Roger North, AMTDC, and Matilda North of 5 Richmond Hill (St Peter parish records, Dublin)

8a  Grace Gibson North, b 1883 (Qld BDM C3674)

7c Digby Lyttelton North (SP email 16 Jan 2008).  Lyttelton North was b 16 Feb 1854, baptised 14 May 1854, son of Roger North, resident master in college, and Matilda North, of 19 Richmond Hill (Rathmines parish records).  He appears not to have emigrated to Queensland, so may have died before 1873

7d Francis Jeremy North, b 31 Dec 1858, baptised 19 Feb 1869, son of Roger North and Matilda Lucy North of 4 Ormond Tce (Rathmines parish records, Dublin). A Francis North aged 14 emigrated to Australia in 1873 on the Light Brigade (Queensland Archives), so b c1859.  The IGI suggests Francis was b 1866, the year after Matilda Lucy Lyster died and a year in which the Rev Roger was without a wife.  He d 1924 in Queensland (Qld BDM C915).  A Francis Jeremy North m Fanny Lizzie Landsborough in 1885 (Qld BDM C193) and had issue

8a Roger Gilford North or Roger Guilford North, b 1885 (Qld BDM C7237), death registered 1922 (Qld BDM F6598).  The Australian Archives have the Attestation Paper for Roger when he joined the Australian Imperial Force, occupation surveyor, age 30 2/12ths, on 16 Mar 1915 at Rockhampton, Qld.  His next of kin was Fanny Elizabeth North.  He made no provision for a wife or children

8b Francis William North, b 1887 (Qld BDM B37937) also signed up for WWI: on 19 Sep 1916: Service Number 3707, born Brisbane, enlisted at Rockhampton, occupation drover, age 29 & 9 months,  next of kin (Mother) Fanny Lizzie North, made no provision for a wife or children (Australian Archives).  A Francis Willliam North m 1922 (Qld BDM C2947) Amy Mabel Thompson - possibly his sister in law?

8c Landsborough North, b 1891 (Qld BDM C873), m 1918 (Qld BDM C3311) Frances Emily Thompson

8d Cedric Roy North, b 1894 (Qld BDM C578), death registered 1922 (Qld BDM F6597) enlisted in the AIF on 25 Aug 1915, Service Number 3857, b Bundaberg Qld, enlisted in Rockhampton Qld, next of kin (mother) Francis Lizzie North [sic: Frances], aged 21 & 7 months, occupation drover, made no provision for a wife or children (Australian Archives)

8e Littleton Lister North, b 1897 (Qld BDM C10655)

8f Lucy Elizabeth North, b 1900 (Qld BDM C4817)

8g Sidney Landsborough North, b 21 Sep1903 (Qld BDM C4119) signed up for WW2: Service Number Q219849; born 21 Sep 1903 at Murray's Creek, Qld; enlisted at Gordonvale, Qld; next of kin Constance North (Australian Archives). 

9a Roger Landsborough North,  Service Number 404828, b 30 Jan 1922 at Rockhampton, Qld, enlisted in the RAAF at Brisbane, bank clerk, next of kin Sybil Ellen North (his wife) (Australian Archives), is a likely descendent

8h Dorothy Allison North, b 1907 (C520)

7e Henry Marsh North, aged 12 in 1873 so b c1861, b 26 Nov 1860, baptised 1 Jan 1861, son of Roger North, clerk in holy orders, and Matilda North, of  4 Ormand Tce (Rathmines parish records, Dublin), d Queensland 1929 (Qld BDM B7146), m in Qld in 1891 Evangaline Canning (Qld BDM) and had issue.  The Qld death index record says he was the son of Roger North and Matilda Leister.  Marsh is his paternal grandmother's name, so he is certainly a child of the Rev Roger North, and from his age from the Rev Roger's first marriage, to Matilda Lucy Lyster, confirming the death record

8a Violet Matilda North, b 1892 (Qld BDM C2529), m 1917 (Qld BDM 20911) Samuel Morris

8b Lily Amelia North, b 1893 (Qld BDM C2045), m 1923, as Lillien Amelia North, (Qld BDM C2428) Timothy Alfred Ernest Donovan

8c Henry William Roger North, b 1895 (Qld BDM C2234), m 1920 (Qld BDM B26333) Ethel May Cogill and had issue

9a Major North, d 1920 (Qld BDM)

8d Leister Littleton Marsh North b 1898 (Qld BDM C2084), m 1918 (Qld BDM B22313) Ethel Maurer

8e Dora North, b 1899 (Qld BDM C2067)

8f Francis Canning North, b 1899 (Qld BDM C2068), m 1918 (Qld BDM B22167) Ellen Sharock

8g Ethel Eva North, b 1901 (Qld BDM C7476)

7f Guilford Dudley North (SP email 16 Jan 2008).  The IGI suggests he was b 1868, but a son of Matilda Lucy Lyster (who died in 1865): the 1868 date could be 5 years late - see next entry.  He appears not to have emigrated to Queensland, so may have died before 1873

7g Charlotte Maude North, b 19 Sep 1864, baptised 12 Nov 1864 (Rathmines parish records, Dublin), d 5 May 1865 aged 7 months and 2 weeks from marasmus (a severe form of malnutrition caused by inadequate intake of protein and calories, usually in the first year of life) at 4 Ormonde Terrace, Rathmines (death certificate: SP email 24 May 2008). (The IGI suggests she was b 1870)

7h Charles Roger North, b 14 Mar 1870 (birth certificate: SP email 24 May 2008), b 13 Mar 1870, baptised 1 May 1870 from 4 Ormond Tce (Rathmines parish records, Dublin).  Charles North aged 2 in 1873 emigrated on the same voyage as Roger North and Ellen Wake.  Charles Roger North is named in his father's will but got no benefit under it 'solely because he is to receive certain benefits under my Marriage Settlement'.  A Charles Roger North m Florence Victoria Lindsay in 1900 (Qld BDM C804).  Charles and Florence had issue

8a Gladys Muriel North, b 1900 (Qld BDM C4519)

8b Charles Arthur North, b 1903 (Qld BDM C1798)

8c Selwyn Dudley Wake North, b 1907 (Qld BDM C2301) (the given name Wake suggests Ellen Wake was his grandmother; Dudley is also a recurring name in this family, though there were other Dudley Norths in Australia (IGI))

8d Lindsay Annan North, b 1911 (Qld BDM C2563)

7i Ellen North b ?1873. Queensland birth records (Qld BDM SP email 15 Apr 2008) include an Unnamed daughter North, b 1873 (C1647), daughter of Roger North and Ellen Wake. The Rev Roger's 1893 will mentions a daughter Ellen North, spinster, presumably this unnamed daughter (EN email 24 Apr 2008).  In 1905, an Ellen North m George Onge Phillips (Qld BDM: SP email 15 Apr 2008) and had issue Qld BDM (to 1914)

8a Dooreen Ellen Phillips b 1907 (Qld BDM B13971)

8b Dudley George Phillips b 1908 (Qld BDM B17915)

8c Roger Halley Phillips b 1910 (Qld BDM B22845)

8d Eileen Elizabeth Phillips b 1912 (Qld BDM B28510)

8e Edward Grey Phillips b 1914 (Qld BDM B37275)

5b James North, d Apr 1811 (from an unverified genealogy (SP email 14 Nov 2007)) (second of three named sons of Roger North in deed 1838 7 185)

5c Roger North (SP3, SP8), shot on the Offaly/Westmeath border 23 Sep 1850 (SP emails 12 Jul & 7 & 25 Sep 2007; report in Ballina Chronicle) (SP8) and had issue. Roger North, Kilduff, prerogative inventory, 1850 (CPR 1922 WW50).  Roger North m Julia Smyth in 1817 (ML).  'The younger third son of said Roger North the elder' (deed 1819 742 505671 of 19 Apr 1819).  Third of three named sons of Roger North in deed 1838 7 185.  Deed 1837 22 9 recites a 15 Nov 1817 marriage settlement between Roger North and Julia Smyth (EN email 10 Mar 2008; CN email 12 Aug 2009)  The deed itself concerns the process of appointing Rev Thomas Gregg as a replacement trustee for Peter Warren, who had died.  Deed 721 229 492764 of 15 Nov 1817 is their marriage settlement: Julia Smyth of St, Dublin, and Roger North the younger of Dublin, and Peter Warren of Henrietta St, and Robert Fraser of Dublin - marriage intended of Julia Smyth and Roger North: Julia was entitled to certain securities and monies made over to Peter Warren and Robt Fraser - whenever she needs them - terms and conditions (EN email 14 Oct 2008).  In deed 1840 4 167 of 21 Feb 1840, Julia North, wife of Roger North of Kilduff, did exercise a certain power reserved to her by deed of Nov 1817 [her marriage settlement] re various properties in Dublin to Roger North (EN email 1 Feb 2009).  Deed 1840 4 207: Julia North wife of Roger North of Kilduff re Elizabeth Moore, aunt of Julia North, re shares and debentures left in will, transferred to Roger North, v lengthy (EN email 1 Feb 2009).  Deed 1841 25 27 refers to Ralph Smyth, Glasnevin, Dublin, only son of Ralph Smyth, formerly of Parliament St, Dublin, woolen draper, and Anne Smyth, his wife, both deceased; and Roger North and Julia North otherwise Smyth, one of the daughters of Ralph Smyth and executor and legatee of Sarah Smyth her sister, deceased; and Anne Robbins otherwise Fraser - sorting out properties, families and money (EN email 1 Feb 2009).  Deed 1841 24 288 of 3 Dec 1841 concerns the same people and is a transfer of 3 fourths shares in 4 ac 2 rd off Dollymount Lane, Co Dublin, from Ralph Smyth, Roger North and Julia North to Robert Warren of Dublin who had inherited an undivided 1 fourth share in the land purchased from Catherine Fraser nee Smyth deceased (CN email 5 Sep 2009).  Deed 1849 10 23 refers to an Act to promote drainage of land & improvement etc, Roger North, Kilduff, Barony of Philipstown (EN email 1 Feb 2009)

6a Rev Joseph North of Bourne, b c1820 (from 1861 and 1871 English census records: SP email 9 Nov 2007), d 25 Oct 1905 ["aged 92" according to his death certificate but aged 85 if the census records are correct (SP email 25 Oct 2007)] (SP3), m(1) from 50 York St, occupation 'Clerke', on 18 Jun 1845 Emma Deering of 14 Upper Mont St, dau of John Deering, barrister, witness Susan H Deering  (St Peter parish records, Dublin); m(2), when Clerk in Holy Orders, widower and of the Hibernian Hotel, Dublin, on 2 Sep 1892  Elizabeth Anne Brunett (widow) of 1 Clifton Pl, Monkstown, daughter of  Robert Fitzgerald MD and Jane M Fitzgerald (SP2, SP emails 4 Oct 2007, 31 Jan 2009, parish records St Anne COI).  In the Registry of Deeds, 1845, Book 10 no143, Roger North of Kilduff, King’s Co, agrees to pay £50 per annum through trustees Johnson & Ryan, Gardiner St, Dublin, to his eldest son Rev Joseph North, on his marriage to Emma Deering, Upr Mount St, Dublin. Thoms 1845 directory lists Lucius Henry Deering, Esq at 71 Abbey St and 59 Upper Mount St, Dublin - presumably Emma's father.  A deed at 1847 Book 1 No. 127 dated 31 Oct 1847 refers to Rev Joseph North of Thomastown Glebe, Co Kildare & Emma North (nee Deering).  Deed 1853 18 225 of 9 Jul 1853 records the sale of a £40 annuity to Wm Gibson for the life of Rev Joseph North of Kilduff, payable out of the lands of Kilduff, 170 acres, Barony Philipstown, King’s Co and the transfer of the land to Francis Blackburne Martley as trusteee, for a payment of £300 Sterling.  Deed 1853 32 216 of 21 Dec 1853 records that Rev Joseph North sold for £200 Sterling a further annuity of £25 13s 6d to Gibson out of the rents of Kilduff (EN email 1 Nov 2007).  Joseph was getting capital sums in return for annuites payable from the rents of Kilduff for the rest of his life (which turned out to be a long one), and Kilduff was put into the hands of trustees to secure the annunities.  The effective interest rate is over 10% pa, so Joseph must have had good reason to enter into the arrangement: perhaps he did inherit the land in 1850 but wanted immediate cash rather than longer term rents.  In a lengthy deed, 1898 Bk 65, 229, recording a sale of Kilduff and other properties, Norths are mentioned among many other families (SP email 9 Dec 2007).  Joseph moved to England with his first wife (SP, citing 1861 and 1871 English census records) and does not appear to have had issue.  1887 Book 49 Ref 231 records Joseph and Emma's address as Leamington, Warwickshire (SP email 9 Dec 2007).  Penultimate address was Cambridge, England  (SP email 4 Oct 2007).  In a will dated 1 Aug 1905 from Kingstown, Dublin, he leaves his estate to his sister in law, Jane Marion Fitzgerald, 'who has been very kind and attentive to both myself and my wife during our prolonged illnesses, and has undertaken to allow me to reside for the future under her care, all my property …,' valued at £4,790 16s 2d (EN email 16 Apr 2008)

6b ?(possibly) Anne North, dau of Roger North and Julia North, b 18 Oct 1820, baptised 2 Dec 1820 (St Mary parish records, Dublin)

5d Peter North of Clonfad (CoN) (SP3), d 22 Apr 1859, m 1807 Georgina Lyster (ML, SP email 1 Sep 2007), b c1791, d a widow on 25 Sep 1865 aged 74 in Dunleer Rectory (Rev. James Croften, 6a below, occupier) in Louth (death certificate: SP email 20 Oct 2007), and had issue.  Peter North's will left 'All to my wife Georgina title and interest in the whole of the lands of Clonfad, Westmeath. All rents and everything to do with this land, and to dispose of them as she sees fit. And the residue and all else to Georgina.'  The will states that he died on 22 Aug 1859, and was 'late of Richmond St, Dublin, at The Glebe, Dunleer, Co Louth, £2400.00' (extract in the National Archive: EN email 11 Apr 2008).  Georgina Lyster's will was witnessed by Roger North (?her nephew, 6e above, m Matilda Lucy Lyster) and Lyttleton H Lyster (Georgina's brother & Roger North's father in law - 6e below).  James Croften and Roger D Robinson are the executors and trustees, but the main beneficiaries are Georgina's daughters and their children: 'To hold for rents, profits from the lands Clonfad etc, for daughters Caroline and Barbara, for their lives, and after the death of the said Caroline to pay her share to her husband Robert S Swift, if he survives his wife, and after deaths of Caroline and Robert Swift to be paid to the children of Barbara & eventually to the children of Barbara (when everyone else is dead)'. Signed 16 Nov 1863, 16 Mount Pleasant Square, Dublin by Georgina North (SP email 4 Oct 2007; EN email 11 Apr 2008; the effect of Georgina's will seems to be to exclude Barbara's husband  James Croften from any benefit, notwithstanding that he is an executor).  Deed 1834 14 299 of 1 Aug 1834 concerns Peter North of Grafton St, Dublin, and the Rev Tho Mercer Vigors of Burgage, Co Carlow - for the sum of £500 to Peter North by Tho Mercer Vigors to sell lands of Clonfad, Tyrrellspass, 168 acres plus bog, for 21 years (EN email 14 Oct 2008 - presumably this is a lease or a mortgage rather than a sale).  Deed 1849 10 16 refers to an Act to promote drainage of land & improvement etc, Clonfad, & Peter North of Molesworth St, Dublin (EN email 1 Feb 2009)

6a ?Joseph North.  A Joseph North, b 10 Oct 1808, son of Peter North and Georgiana North was baptised 20 Nov 1808 (St George, Dublin, parish records).  If he was a son of Peter North and Georgina Lyster, m 1807, then perhaps he died young as there is no further reference to him in the deeds

6b Barbara North of Clonfad (CoN) b 1813 (SP3), d 9 Sep 1865 at Dunleer, Louth (death certificate: SP email 1 Dec 2007), m 1 Dec 1834, address Gloucester St, her cousin Rev James Croften of Co Sligo (Mones Hotel, Ushers Quay), clerk at Longford House (CoN; St Audoen parish records, Dublin), b 5 May 1803, d Nov 1876 from injuries received when shot by 'some ruffians' when returning from serving tenants with notices to quit, Rector of Dunleer, son of Sir James Crofton and Marion Lyster, buried in Dunleer Churchyard (SP3, SP emails 8 Sep 2007 & 16 Jan 2008), and had issue (SP email 16 Jan 2008)

7a James Croften, b 1838

7b Barbara Georgina Croften.  An Anne North, late of St Patricks Hospital, spinster, d 9 May 1909, had probate granted to Barbara G Crofton, spinster, value £211 (Calendar of Wills, National Archive: EN email 15 Jul 2009).  It is not known what relation Anne was to Barbara

7c Kathleen Barbara Croften, d 1894, m D McCormack

7d Maria Honora Croften, m P Deegan, died without issue

6c Caroline North, b c1814 in Dublin (1871 census of England), b c1810, baptised 25 Jul 1810 as Caroline Barber North, daughter of Peter North and Georgina of Aungier St (St Peter COI parish records, Dublin), m Robert Staples Swift, b c1807 of Dunleer, Louth (SP email 4 Oct 2007) and they ended up in Tunbridge Wells, Kent (1871 English census, where she is recorded as being 57 years old, he 64, a 'retired Proctor of the Court of Probate' on a government pension).  She appears to have died in 1871 or 1872, he in 1879 or 1880 (SP emails 30 Nov & 1 Dec 2007)

5e Hannah North (SP3), m 1812 William Goodwin (St Werburgh COI parish records, Dublin).  Deed 647 521 447872 of 12 Aug 1812 is the marriage settlement of William Goodwin of Calverstown, Co Kildare, Lieut Maj, Reg Kildare Militia, and Hannah North, eldest daughter of Roger North of Parnell Place Dublin.  Also involved were Christopher Chamley, Temple St, Dublin, barrister, and Robert Newson of Athy, Kildare --- lands at Calverstown to Goodwin (EN email 22 Jan 2009).  Deed 645 301 448442 of 30 May 1810 [i.e. before Hannah and William were married] between Hannah North & William Goodwin & Roger North of Kilduff & Peter North of Dublin, son of Roger, concerns lands of Garrough, Moygashel, Westmeath (EN email 22 Jan 2009).  Deed 1838 7 185 refers to William Goodwin of Naas, Co Kildare, and Hannah Goodwin otherwise North, his wife, daughter of the late Roger North: William and Hannah sell an annuity of £20 to which Hannah was entitled from her father's estate to George Symes for £150 (EN email 11 Jul 2008; CN email 20 Mar 2009)

5f Barbara North (SP3)

5g Bridget North (SP3) d before 1829. Bridget North m Christopher Chamley 1808 (ML); Christopher Chamley (or Chomley or Charmley), lawyer in Dublin, born 24 March 1776 in Dublin, married c 7 April 1808 in Kilduff, Kings Co (Freeman's Journal) Bridget North of Kilduff and had issue.  Deed 598 145 407535 of 25 March 1808 is their marriage settlement: Roger North of Kilduff and Bridget North, spinster, 1st part; & John Chamley of Dublin and Christopher Chamley of Dublin, 2nd part; & John Claud Beresford of Dublin, Alderman, and Wm Roper of Dublin 3rd part - John Chamley in consideration of marriage intended between Chr Chamley & Bridget North and of £5,000 marriage portion of said Bridget secured by Roger North, John Chamley did grant and confirm all that and those the town & lands of Lissaroon with the appu^r sit in the Barony of Eliogarty and co of Tippereary [the same barony in which Martin North, cromwellian adventurer, was granted lands in the Cromwellian settlement: CN email 12 Oct 2009] and a long list of other properties, many which were security for a £5,000 mortgage dated 1794, to the trustees - signed John Chamley, witnessed Peter North, Henry Baker (EN email 1 Feb 2009; CN email 12 Oct 2009).  He died 14 Nov 1856 in Cork (Peter Chomley email 7 Nov 2007).  Chamley took mortgages over Clonfad to secure his marriage settlement (see deeds noted under Roger North, Bridget's father, above)

6a Christopher Chamley, b before 1813.  The Kings Inns Admission Papers 1607 – 1867 (Irish Manuscripts Commission 1982; EN email 21 Sep 2009) record Christopher Chamley, 1st son of Christopher, Belcamp, Co Dublin, & Bridget North, decd; over 16, ed Dublin After Rev Francis Chamley T [Trinity] 1829

6b John Chamley

6c Joseph Chamley

6d Harriet Chamley

6e Caroline Chamley

4b Emor North (SP2).  Existence doubtful.  SP2 has a date 1764 next to this Emor: 'that came from the tree developed by the Australian lady that I got the other Maj William North, Rev Roger North information from. I never knew if that Emor was fact and could not reach her to verify her source' (SP email 7 Apr 2009).  Not mentioned in his father's 1781 will.  See notes re his cousin Emor North the attorney. Possibly this Emor is the nephew 'Emor North of Tyrrellspass' who is a party to deed 549 380 364188 of 1802, though that Emor could as well be this Emor's cousin, Emor the attorney

3g Sarah North, named in her father's will.  Possibly married Andrew Allen in 1729 (ML: EN email 11 Sep 2009)

3h Mary North, named in her father's will.  Deed 301 115 199302 is an indented deed of 28 Feb 1767 between John North of Cornhill, Co Tipperary, 1st part, & Mary North of Clonfad, Co Westmeath, spinster, and Joseph North of Brackland, Kings Co, brother of said Mary North, other part - a marriage was then shortly intended to be had between John North and said Mary North and for providing a complete jointure for said Mary, John North did grant unto Joseph [as trustee] a yearly charge of £20 on lands of Cornhill, Co Tipperary, for 31 years commencing after the death of John North for the use and benefit of Mary North.  A marriage portion of £300 was also placed in trust with Joseph for the use of Mary North after death of John should she survive him.  Witnessed by John Habernathy [sic, but perhaps John H Abernethy?] of Begstown, Co Westmeath, William North of Clonfad, Co Westmeath, Roger North of Brackland, Kings Co; memorandum sworn 19 Feb 1774 (EN email 17 Aug 2008; CN email 2 May 2009).  This marriage is attributed to this Mary North because the settlement says she is a sister of Joseph North of Brackland and the only known such Joseph is 3f Joseph above.  However, this Mary's siblings married much earlier, and several of them were dead or heading towards their deaths by 1767.  Perhaps she was 'of Clonfad' because she was living with her brother William there.  Deed 200 338 133388 of 22 & 23 Aug 1759 seems to be a mortgage: it records that John North of Cornhill, Co Tipperary, did lease and confirm to Roger North of Newcastle his heirs etc, that part of Kilbride known as Whitewell, ~240 acres, to have and hold during the natural lives of Roger North, Charles North and James McCabe and their survivors, with a clause of renewals forever, with a proviso that the deed shall be void on payment of £300 sterling with interest on 1 Feb next; witnesses Ulysses North of Newcastle and Daniel Colo of Newcastle, yeoman (EN emails 12 Mar and 17 Aug 2008; CN email 21 Jun 2009).  James McCabe is also mentioned in deeds 433 338 203591 and 290 362 192544.  In the latter he is described as 'of Bracklin', so he is almost certainly a brother of Joseph North of Brackland's wife Bridget McCabe.  This Whitewell deed concerns the same property and is for the same 'lives' as a deed of 22 Jul 1757 which transferred Whitewell from Thomas Smyth or Thomas Smith to John North of Tyrrellspass, son of Roger North of Kilbride and father of Roger North of Whitewell (see 16.3.1 and deed 290 362 192544).  The latter deed seems to have been the one subsisting when it was transferred in 1786 (16.3.1); perhaps the John of Cornhill Whitewell deed was part of a £300 mortgage arrangement.  Cornhill is in North Tipperary bordering Offaly.  Some speculation:  it looks likely that Mary was marrying late in life.  Perhaps to a cousin, as they have the same family name.  One such cousin is John North, son of Mary's uncle Roger North of Kilbride Castle.  He married Margaret Abernethy and appears to have had only one son, Roger, who married in 1760 (so probably born in the 1730s).  John is recorded as being of Kilbride, Whitewell, Tyrrellspass and Fairfield.  Possibly his wife Margaret died some time after giving birth to Roger, hence the lack of further issue, leaving John free to pursue other interests.  John appears to have leased out most of Whitewell and he and his son had few dealings in it after 1757.  Perhaps in 1757, after renewing the lease (deed 290 362 192544) John moved to Cornhill, and it was from there that he concluded deed 200 338 133388, a mortgage or other dealing in Whitewell.  Subsequently he visited Clonfad and there found cousin Mary, a spinster, perhaps housekeeping for her brother William, and marriage followed in 1767.  That would explain why John Habernathy was a witness to Mary's marriage settlement, and why the otherwise mysterious John North 'of Cornhill' was dealing in Whitewell in 1757

3i William North of Clonfad (SP8), [d 1782 (CoN)], d 1800 (Vicars prerogative wills, 16.4.7), d 31 Aug 1800 (deed 549 380 364188).  Deed 549 380 364188 of 31 Jul 1802, between Emor North of Tyrrellspass, Westmeath, 1st part and Roger North of Kilduff, Kings Co, other part - reciting that Wm North late of Clonfad, Westmeath, deed of 15 May 1798 made his will, and on 31 Aug 1800 died, and thereby bequeathed to his nephew the said Roger North that part of the lands of Clonfad lying on the east side of the road leading from Tyrrellspass to Mullingar now in the possession of said Roger North, for the term and under the rent and restrictions in said will mentioned, but subject to one annuity of £40 sterling thereby bequeathed to his nephew Emor North, also party to said deed, for twelve years from said Testator’s decease, provided said Emor North should so long live, and that in consideration of the sum of £230 to Emor North paid by Roger North before execution of the said deed Emor North granted bargain sold assigned transferred and made over to Roger North his admins and assignees the said annuity of £40 from the 1st day of May last for ten years provided Emor North shall so long live, and all his the said Emor North’s right Tull once ?? interest therein in as ample manner as said Emor North held and enjoys the same by virtue of the said will of the said Wm North - this memorial witnessed by Patrick Costello of Kilduff, farmer, and Anna North of Tyrrellspass, spinster; signed Emor North seal - executed in the presence of, being first duly stamped, Patrick Costello & Anna North [not placed] (EN email 22 Feb 2009).  From that summary it is not too clear what is going on, but several things are clear: William had nephews Roger and Emor, so he is this William rather than William son of Roger of Kilbride Castle below; this William made his will in 1798 so he was alive then; and he died on 31 August 1800, so he was alive until then; so he is not the William whose will Betham recorded dated 1782 and proved in 1783.  Roger and Emor the nephews are probably the sons of William's brother Joseph of Bracklyn or Brackland above, though nephew Emor could as well be the son of William's brother Philip, Emor the attorney: a William North was a trustee to that Emor's 1769 marriage settlement; there is no evidence that either Emor was 'of Tyrrellspass' - Emor the attorney seems to have been based in Dublin.  Harriet Bainbridge recorded this William as 'of Kilbride', which was repeated in the Coffeys of Newcastle: that appellation now seems unlikely, and it seems more likely that this William was solely 'of Clonfad'.  Deed 220 56 143900 of 14 Dec 1761 principally concerns Roger North of Newcastle, but it is witnessed by 'Wm North of Clonfad in y^e co W^tmeath one of the att^eys of his Ma^ties Ct of Excheq^re in Irel^d' (CN email 10 Mar 2009): so William was an attorney.  That is confirmed in the 1760 Dublin Almanac Registry Directory where he is listed as William North, Attorney, Exchequer in Ireland.  By 1764 he is no longer listed (EN email 15 Apr 2009).  Deed 559 539 377072 of 6 Jul 1804: Roger North of Kilduff, 1st part; and Philip North and William North his eldest son of Golden Lane, City of Dublin, other part - wherby after reciting that Wm North late of Clonfad Westmeath did by his last will dated 15 May 1798 devise and bequeath all part Clonfad held by lease under the Right Honoourable most Reverend Thomas Lewis, Lord Bishop of Meath, and lying on the right side of the road leading from Tyrrellspass to Mullingar, 168 acres, to Roger North, subject to half the head rents and half the renewal monies payable out of the same; and did likewise by said will demise all that other part of said lands of Clonfad, lying on the left hand side of the said road leading from Tyrrelspass to Mullingar, 153 acres, unto Philip North and William North his [Philip's] son as in said deed – said Philip taking the same for six years only[,] each share to be subject to a moiety of the yearly rent and fines payable to the said Bishop and the parties did for themselves their executors, administrators and assigns covenant and agree with each other that they should hold and enjoy their respective shares of said lands without any claim or demand being ever made by any or either of them to the share of the other (EN email 22 Jan 2009; CN email 19 Jun 2009).  Philip is thought to be William's nephew Philip, who married Sarah Pilkington (above).  William also seems to have left an annuity to a Mary Ann North, who has been placed tentatively as a sister of William, son of Philip North and Sarah Pilkington, who inherited the left part of Clonfad: Deed 579 284 391570 of 5 Apr 1806 is a memorandum of an indenture deed of rent charges whereby William North of Dublin undertakes to pay £40 annuity as bequeathed out of lands of Clonfad under the will of Willliam North of Clonfad, deceased, to Mary Ann North of Dublin and her assigns for the term of her natural life, payable annually at the Royal Exchange, Dublin (EN email 30 Apr 2009).  Mary Ann North's husband was Rev Alexander A Nicholson, clerk, and on 8 Feb 1845 when living at Moylary Glebe, Co Louth, they sold the annuity to Richard Summers of Tyrrellspass (Deed 1845 3 53: CN email 27 Jun 2009).  A William North was a church warden in 1791 (Vestry Book, Tyrrellspass Church, Clonfadforan Parish records, COI Library, Dublin: EN email 29 Mar 2009).  The Kings Inns Admission Papers 1607 – 1867 (Irish Manuscripts Commission 1982; EN email 21 Sep 2009) record North, William, Exchequer, Feb 1744: that looks like this William

3j Michael North, named in his father's will, ?b c1725 (on basis of date of his possible apprentiship).  Possibly bookseller, Fishamble St, The Big Ship St or Great Ship St, Blind Quay (Watsons Almanac Directory, 1761-1770: EN email 11 Sep 2009; 26 Jan 2010).  Michael the bookseller was apprenticed with the consent of his brother Roger to Oliver Nelson on 12 Jul 1741, sworn free of city by service on 18 Feb 1756, became bankrupt in 1778 (insolvent, not in custody, not petitioned against), in the annual lists from 1755 until 1789, was still living in 1790 when his two sons, William and Philip, petitioned on 6 Apr 1790 for freedom by birth (A dictionary of members of the Dublin book trade 1550 – 1800, Mary Pollard, 2000, page 436 and others: Google books) (EN email 26 Jan 2010).  The St Werburg Church of Ireland records in the Dublin City Library record Michael and Hannah North of Blind Quay and three children (EN email 10 Feb 2010)

4a William North, baptised 14 Feb 1757 (St Werburg C of I parish records), alive 1790

4b Philip North, alive 1790

4c Joseph North baptised 27 Mar 1758 (St Werburg C of I parish records)

4d Roger North, baptised 25 Jun 1762 (St Werburg C of I parish records)

3k John North of Tyrrellspass, d 1757 (CoN) (16.4.4) (Vicars prerogative wills), m 1745 Anne (SP1) and had issue (16.4.4).  Betham recorded an extract of his will, '151 North John of Tyrrilspass Co WtMeath Gent - Dated 23 April 1757 - pd 30th Sep 1757 - wife Anne - Son Thomas - daurs Elizabeth - Sarah - Hannah - and Mary - Son John' (EN email 25 Apr 2008 #10)

4a John North of Tyrrellspass (16.4.4)

4b Thomas North (16.4.4), named in his father's will.  [Betham has an extract of a will, '160 North Thomas of Ballysotrugh[?] Kings Co - Dated 16 Oct 1752 - pd 18th Apr 1758 - wife Mary - Sons Basakea[?] and John - daur Anne - Brother John North - Brother in law Baracah Low -' (EN email 25 Apr 2008 #9). In SP1 he was placed as a son of 5d James North and Mary Antisele (below).  Possibly he is this Thomas: the names of the brother and children fit well, but his parents are supposed to have married in 1745, in which case the Thomas of the will is too old to be this Thomas.  For now, the Thomas of the will, d c1758, has been put elsewhere in the tree]

4c Elizabeth North (16.4.4).  Deed 483 474 316358 memorialised in June 1795: Elizabeth North of Tyrrellspass W’meath did grant bargain unto John Sommers Tyrrellspass household furniture then in the house of John Sommers, 8 mahogany chairs, 6 mahogany hair bottomed chairs, 6 other mahogany chairs, 3 tables, beds, kettles, saucepans etc witnessed etc and signed Elizabeth North (EN email 21 Jun 2008)

4d Sarah North (16.4.4)

4e Hannah North (16.4.4)

4f Mary North (16.4.4)

3l Anne North, named in her father's will, m White (Betham)

3m Charles North (SP8).  Doubtful: not named in his father's will, not in Bainbridge, no other records

2b Caleb North of Newcastle, m Jane Eckerly or Jane Berkeley, 'daughter of Lord Lieutenant of Ireland' [no Lord Lieutenant Eckerly: probably John Berkeley, Baron of Straton, b 1607, d 1678: SP email 29 Sep 2007; CN email 16 Mar 2008; EN email 4 May 2008; or dau of one of his sons?], moved to Philadelphia Pa (USA) on 29 Jul 1729 (SP1), and had issue.  Caleb North and Mary North are mentioned as son and daughter of Roger North in deed 1726 50 54 32031: it is assumed that this is that Caleb.  See Caleb North: Decendants of Caleb North who came from Ireland to Philadelphia in 1729 by Dexter North, Washington DC, 1930 (SP email 17 Apr 2009).  According to Dexter North’s book Caleb's 8 sons, among whom George was an officer in the Continental Army, all fought for the revolution and were present at the famous battle of Monmouth.  George North, after the war, became a member of the Society of the Cincinnati, a body founded by Baron von Steuben to honour heroes of the revolution (CN email 7 Nov 2009)

3a Roger North (SP1)

3b Caleb North (SP1)

3c Joseph North (SP1)

3d Ann North (SP1)

3e Elizabeth North (SP1)

3f Catherine North (SP1)

3g Joshua North (SP1)

3h Sarah North (SP1)

3i George North (CN email 7 Nov 2009, citing Dexter North's book, above)

2c Elizabeth North (CoN) m in Maine Francis Cooper d 1740.  He was from Garryhest, Cork and St Georges, Maine, USA  (SP1)

2d Roger North of Kilbride Castle, d 1766 (SP1), m 1704 Mary Wade (SP1), and had issue.  (Kilbride Castle, possibly formerly a 'castle' of the Tyrell family, may already have been in ruins at that time, and the Norths lived near it and used the name, rather than living in it - CN email 26 Apr 2009)

3a William North of Kilbride Castle, d c1783 (CoN suggests 'killed in Rising of 1803', but it is ambiguous: it must be that just Lord Kilwarden died in the uprising), d 1783 (Vicars prerogative wills), m Wolfe ('aunt of Lord Kilwarden' (CoN)) (SP1) and had issue.  Deed 549 369 364150 seems to refer to this William.  It states that he made a will dated 16 Jun 1782.  Betham records such a will: 344 North, William, Kilbride, dated 19 June 1782, proved 17th Oct 1783 sons Roger and Joseph (EN email 25 Apr 2008).  The deed states that William's heir was his eldest son Roger North of Kilbride.  Another party to the deed is Joseph North of Northbrook, whose relationship to William is not stated: he could be William's younger son Joseph North who married Miss Briggs, below, and had connections with Northbrook; deed 356 125 238786 of 20 Oct 1783, Roger's marriage settlement, says that sons Roger and Joseph inherited from William.  The substance of deed 549 369 364150 concerns a renewal of a lease of Rathnowland, 57 acres 2 roods 15 perches plantation measure, part of Kilbride, originally made to the Robert Rochfort, in favour of Anne Rochfort, his widow and administator of the wills of Hon Robert Rochfort, late of Bowden Park, Westmeath (EN email 19 Oct 2008).  If these deeds have been interpreted correctly, then this William died in 1782 or 1783, and not in the uprising of 1803.  There may be (past and present) confusion between this William and William of Clonfad, son of Joseph of Newcastle, above.  Deed 289 309 190947 of 8 May 1772 was between William North of Kilbride 1st part; and Alexander Barrington of Barretstown, Co Kildare, 2nd part - reciting indentures of lease of 21-22 July 1757 (deed 1757 187 347 125349) re Thos Smith 1st part and Wm North other part purporting to be a demise of part of the lands of Kilbride and Tonlegee for 3 lives renewable at a pepper corn fine - the said Wm North in consideration £300 did grant bargain to said A Barrington all that part of the town and lands of Kilbride and Tonglegee in the occupation of said William North containing 223 acres & premises unto said A Barrington his heirs etc to the sole and only use of said A Barrington during the natural life of said William North, Roger North his eldest son, and Jn Gerrard of Parcelstown [Parsonstown], Westmeath, the three [lives] in said recited lease named and survivors of them and such others by virtue of covenants – subject to redemption upon payment of £300 (EN email 14 Oct 2008)

4a Roger North of Kilbride Castle (CoN), b c1740, d 27 Aug 1804 aged 64 (tomb inscription at Dunboden: CN email 25 Feb 2009; SP email 26 Feb 2009), m 1783 Mary Gerrard (Roger North & Gerrard marriage bond, 1783 (CPR 1922 WW24)) and had issue.  Died before 1815 (deed 1815 659 477526).  Deed 356 125 238786 of 20 Oct 1783 is his marriage settlement: Roger North of Kilbride, 1st part; William Abernathy of Humefield & Thomas Gerrard of Parsonstown [otherwise Birr: EN email 23 Jun 2009], Westmeath 2nd part; and Mary Gerrard of Parsonstown - recititing that Thomas Smith by indenture dated 22 Jul 1757 demised to Wm North deceased all land Kilbride [then in his possession (c.f. lands of Kilbride then in possession of William's brother John North i.e. Whitewell, 240 acres)], 223 acres, to hold for 3 lives renewable forever at the yearly rent therein mentioned; and that the said William North died having by his last will demised said lands to his two sons, said Roger North and Joseph North; and the said Joseph North by deed by him duly demised his part of the lands to the said Roger North for 3 lives renewable forever at yearly rent mentioned; and also reciting that a marriage was intended by the grace of God to be had and soleminized between said Roger North and Mary Gerrard; and said Roger North, in consideration of said marriage and the marriage portion therein, conveyed the said lands of Kilbride to the said Wm Abernathy and Thomas Gerrard their heirs and assigns forever under trust to the use of the said Roger North for his life and after his death if Mary Gerrard survives him and if no issue between then Mary Gerrard to get £40 per annum for life --- witnesses Lewis Rochfort, John Rochfort, Sidebrook, Westmeath, etc (EN email 14 Oct 2008; CN email 15 Jun 2010)

5a Mary Elizabeth North of Kilbride, b c1796, d 6 Feb 1867 at Kilbride, Castlelost, aged 71 (death certificate: SP email 17 Nov 2007) m 1815, aged 18, Abraham John Pilkington, Captain in the Londonderry Regiment (CoN)  (SP1) (EN email 24 Oct 2007), b c1781, d 25 Mar 1874 at Kilbride, aged 93 (death certificate: SP email 17 Nov 2007), and had issue.  Abraham John Pilkington had earlier married Mary Hugo or Maria McHugo in 1803 and by her had issue Homan Pilkington (the Thomas Homan Pilkington of deeds 1839 21 84 and 1837 10 173) and Belinda Pilkington (who married Isaac North-Bomford) (Burke; Jim Blower email 25 Jun 2008). Deed 582 258 393193 of 25 Apr 1805 is between Joseph North of Northbrook, Galway, 1st part; & Mary Elizabeth North, a minor, by Mary North, her mother and guardian and which said Mary Eliz North is the only daughter and heiress at law of Roger North, late of Kilbride, Westmeath, deceased, of other part - witness that in consideration therein mentioned demised unto Mary Eliz North all that and those part of the lands of Kilbride called the East [Division] situate [in barony] of Fartullagh, Westmeath, as laid by survey by John Dane containing est 91 acres and to hold to said Mary Eliz North her heirs and assigns from 1 Nov last and during the lives of M North, George and John Rochfort in said --- Westmeath & rent ~£90 sterling payable half yearly; witnessed by Sam Gerrard, Tallyho, Westmeath (EN email 22 Jan 2009).  1815 659  477526 of 16 Sep 1815 is a deed re Kilbride and Tonlegee involving Abraham J Pilkington, Capt L’Derry Reg & Mary E Pilkington, his wife and only daughter and heir of Roger North, deceased, late of Kilbride, Westmeath; Mary North, Roger's widow and mother and guardian of Elizabeth Pilkington; and Joseph North of Northbrook, acknowledging that they were only dealing with Joseph's moiety in the land and that it was held in trust for his benefit (CN email 18 Feb 2009).  Deed 1815 693 476083 of 23 Sep 1815 is long and somewhat involved settlement for the proposed marriage between Abraham John Pilkington and Mary E North, then aged 18, involving Mary North (her mother and guardian), and Joseph North of Northbrook (her uncle, 4c Joseph North: SP email 25 Oct 2007) and Richard Summers [= Somers?] of Tyrrellspass as trustees.  It involves sums of money and lands of Kilbride East Division, Kilbride and Tonlegee, all of which are put into trust, with some complications because Mary Elizabeth is under 21 and to take account of all contingencies regarding the number of children of the marriage (EN email 24 Oct 2007).  Abraham John Pilkington died c25 Mar 1874 and probate was granted on 27 Aug 1874.  His will left all his estate, including entitlements under his marriage settlement, to his daughter, Maria Jane Pilkington, wife of William Knight, farmer, of Coola Lodge, Kilmague, Co Kildare (National Archives ref T12633: EN email 24 Apr 2009)

6a William Pilkington, b c1818, d at Kilbride 21 Jan 1892 aged 74, m Anne, d  1 Apr 1891 aged 64, and had issue: Annie M Pilkington, d 12 Jul 1888 aged 26; & Emmanuel Pilkington, d at St Helens 14 Sep 1899 aged 40 and had issue (Jim Blower email 28 Feb 2009, with further generations to present day)

6b Maria Jane Pilkington, 'daughter of deceased and sole executrix' of her father's will in 1874, m 1844 (Public Records Marriage Bonds Meath Diocese, National Archives: EN email 24 Apr 2009) William Knight, farmer, of Coola Lodge, Kilmague, Co Kildare.  If Maria was under 30 when she married in 1844, then she was born after 1815, which would make her a daughter of Mary Elizabeth North rather than of Maria McHugo.  However, Maria Jane may well be a daughter of Maria McHugo rather than of Mary Elizabeth North: possibly Maria McHugo died of complications from the birth

4b John North, Rev (SP1, Bainbridge).  John's existence is doubtful: deed 582 258 393193 says William had two sons, Roger and Joseph and no other reference to this John has been found

4c Joseph North of Northbrook (SP1), m c1764 (EN email 11 Mar 2008) Miss Briggs (SP email 15 Nov 2007).  Alice Briggs also Hall (possibly the Halls of Knockbrack in Burke: EN email 20 Sep 2009), of Cappagh, Co Galway, widow (of Jonathan Briggs, Prerogative Grant April 1745, died intestate) left a will which tells us that Miss Briggs was Rachel Briggs: to my eldest son John [Briggs] the lands of Shannah & Tisseloncond?; reference to his brother William [Briggs], deceased; to my second son Joseph [Briggs] £140; to daughter Catherine Pilkington [otherwise Briggs] £100; to grandaughters Alice & Sarah Pilkington, other children [unnamed, number not given]; son in law Thomas Woods £70 to be divided between his children [number not given]; daughter Hannah Woods also Briggs, deceased; to daughter Rachel North also Briggs, £50; executors John Briggs, said son, Christopher Hall of Cloonbah?, Co Galway, Thomas Woods of Garbally?, King’s Co; witnessed by Thomas Kenny, Henry Persse, Nob? Sinclair; dated 22 Feb 1780, proved 10 Jul 1781 (Prerogative wills 1781, No 2876 Thrift Abstracts Microfilm – National Archives, Dublin: EN email 18 Apr 2009).  Roger Briggs and Benjamin Briggs, sons of Thomas Briggs of Tyrrellstown House, Tyrrellspass are mentioned in deed 705 542/3 483478 of 1816-1818, as are Joseph North of Northbrook, Co Galway (probably this Joseph, but possibly 5b Joseph below) and John North son of John North of Whitewell) (SP2).  Those Briggs may be related.  Allice Briggs and Jonathan Briggs' eldest son John Briggs of Cappa married Jane Grome and got one half or moiety of the lands of Skeanan and Cappa as a marriage settlement from Allice, then a widow (Deed 1780 337 483 227854 of 10 Jun 1780: CN email 29 Sep 2009).  Allice Briggs of Cappagh's second son Joseph Briggs was a witness to Allice's £700 mortage transaction over the lands of Great and Little Coolers in Co Meath on 1 May 1779 (Deed 322 22 219712: CN email 29 Sep 2009). Joseph moved to Galway (SP emails 25 Oct & 14 Nov 2007).  He is reported to have had at least one son, 5a William, and may have had others - Joseph North and Roger North of Cappa.  Inherited land from his Uncle Joseph, 3c Joseph of Garrynamishaun below (SP email 27 Feb 2008).  Also inherited a half share in lands of Kilbride when his father William died in 1783, which half share he first leased to his brother Roger (recited in deed 356 125 238786 of 1783), and leased at least in part ('East Division') to brother Roger's daughter Mary Elizabeth North in 1805 (deed 582 258 393193); the reversionary intererst passed to his son Roger, below.  (Initial outline of the Galway Norths was in SP email 24 Nov 2007)

5a William North of Northbrook (SP2), Co Galway (EN email 11 Mar 2008), b c1775, d on 9 Sep (Oswego letters) in (or possibly before) 1839 (his wife was widow in the 1839 grant of probate for their daughter 6f Rachel), m (settlement dated 15 May 1805) Margaret Whitestone, b 17 Sep1780, d 16 Sep 1852, one day short of her 72nd birthday (Oswego letters Sep 1852), (or d 18 Sep 1852 aged 73: SP email 12 Mar 2008, quoting transcript of Monkstown parish burial records - maybe she was buried in the 18th), buried at Donnybrook, Dublin (SP emails 27 Nov 2007, 12 Mar 2008)) and had issue - 13 or 14 children.  It seems Margaret Whitestone had at least three siblings: a brother Luke who was surgeon at the laying in hospital in Dublin (Thoms 1841 directory lists Luke Whitestone, MD & surgeon of 32 Frederick St, north, Dublin); a sister who married Mr Groome of Sycamore Hill; and a sister who married Mr McGrath of Castlereach (SP email 17 Dec 2008 from family sources).  Deed 1805 570 206 380859 of 7 Feb 1798 records the lease of a castle near the bridge at Ballynasloe, Co Rosscommon, from William Pilkington to Ann Whitestone, widow, of Dublin.  It records Margaret and Ann as the first and second daughters of the said Ann Whitestone, and Luke Whitestone as the only son of Elizabeth Whitestone [which implies that Ann and Elizabeth were different people, not the singular Ann Elizabeth Whitestone of the following deed: the separation seems to be a clerical artifact; information from family sources is that Luke had three or four sisters (SP email 2 Jul 2009)].  The memorial is witnessed by William North of Northbrook.  Deed 566 410 384183 of 5 Oct 1804 is the marriage settlement: between Joseph North, Northbrook, Co Galway, William North eldest son of Joseph, Ann Elizabeth Whitestone of Fairfield in the said Co, widow, and Margaret Whitestone, spinster, daughter of said Ann, concerning a marriage then to be solemnized between said Wm North and Margt Whitestone - was agreed that sd Wm North should receive from Ann Eliz Whitestone as the marriage portion of the sd Margt Whitestone the sum of £700 stg which was then immediately paid over to said Joseph North in part consideration of said marriage and which sum, when paid by said Ann E Whitestone, was to be in full satisfaction and discharge of all claims and --- whatsoever which the said Margt or Wm, her intended husband, could or might have for any part or share of the aforesaid or effects of her father the late Henry Whitestone deceased or to her – and it was thereby agreed that the said Joseph North in consideration of said marriage and of his then receiving said sum of £700 so to be paid to him within seven months from the date by good and sufficient --- in law at the --- of the said Wm North grant convey and make over all his the said Joseph North['s] title and interest in the said Lands of Northbrook otherwise Garryahone [Garrinahane], Co Galway ---- and ample a manner as the said Joseph North then held and enjoyed the same under the last will and testament of his uncle late Joseph North of Garryahone --- charges etc, ---witnessed by James Whitestone, City of Dublin, one of his majesty’s Councellors at Law, and Thos Magrath, Jnr, of Castlerea (EN email 22 Jan 2009).  Elizabeth Ann Wade's father may have been Thomas Wade and her brother Gustavus Wade (SP email 11 Mar 2008) who died in 1897 (EN email 3 Apr 2008) (so perhaps Thomas was her brother and Gutavus his son).  A Henry Whitestone, eminent bookseller died on 18 Oct 1787 at Dame St, Dublin (Faulkner's Dublin Journal, 1725-1795: SP email 26 Jun 2009).  He may have been chair of the Corps of the Independent Dublin Volunteers in Dec 1782 (letter to the Rt Hon Henry Grattan, 1 Dec 1782: SP email 26 Jun 2009).  Northbrook was the residence of Mr William North in 1814. The lands at Northbrook or Garrinahane, parish of Aughrim, barony of Kilconnell, were offered for sale in the Encumbered Estates Court in February 1853. This property was held on a lease from Samuel Handy to Joseph North. The original lease was for three lives from 1750 (deed 1752 152 235 101563 below).  Today, the Northbrook buildings, on the road between Kilconnell and Aughrim, are in ruins of which there are several, stone walls with trees growing through them and thickly clad with ivy etc and it is very difficult to ascertain which ruin could have been the original house.  There is still a John North there, and a notice along the road Northbrook Cattle Co: The West is Best (EN email 4 Jun 2008).  Fairfield is also on the road between Kilconnell and Aughrim, about a mile down the road from Northbrook and very close to Aughrim village (EN email 4 Jun 2008)

6a Henry W North of Spruce Hill, son of William North, gent, m in parish of Lickerrig, Co Galway 8 Dec 1845 Mary Boulger, spinster of full age of Loughrea, daughter of Persse O'Keefe Boulger, late Major in His Majesty's 93rd Regiment (marriage certificate: EN emails 18 Feb 2009, 26 Feb 2010) and had at least one son and two daughters.  The marriage was witnessed by Persse Nicholl Boulger, brother of the bride (CN emails 11 & 12 Mar 2010).  In c1853 he was 'still a porter on the railway in Ballinasloe' (Oswego letter).  In c1854 he had a son born in the USA (EN email 11 Mar 2010) and presumably was living there

6a a daughter

6b 'another daughter' born '4 months since' in Oswego letter of Dec 1851: 'her entrance into this cold cruel world was not a very welcome one'

6b William Nile North, b c1854 (USA 1870 census, aged 16, in Wisconsin)

6b Joseph A North of Northbrook d 3 Dec 1886, m(1) Letitia Lambert (SP email 12 Mar 2008), who died (SP email 7 Mar 2008).  Letitia Sophie North, Ballinasloe, was buried in Galway 13 Feb 1856, aged 48 (so b c1808) (parish records: EN email 6 Dec 2008).  Joseph, then of Ballinasloe or of St Grillians, Ballinasrae, m(2) at St Mary's Church, North Dublin, on 7 Aug 1857 Arabella Selina Naghton, spinster, of 39 Upper Dorset St, daughter of Edward Naghton, gent (EN email 18 Apr 2009; marriage cert: EN email 26 Feb 2010; St Mary parish records, Dublin). Deed 1839 21 84 refers to Joseph and Letitia's marriage settlement, £1,000 in trust to Thomas Homan Pilkington of Abbeyville and Thos Lahiff of Russane, both Co Galway, for the benefit of Margaret Anne North, Joseph's mother; it also involves the settlement of the will dated Jan 1826 of Henry Lambert, who may have been Letitia's father. Thomas Homan Pilkington of Abbeyville, Co Galway, is possibly a relative of 6d Anne North's husband Henry Pilkington (CN email 19 Feb 2009; EN emails 10 Mar & 17 Oct 2008; SP email 16 Jan 2008).  That Henry Lambert was Letitia's father is confirmed in deed 1837 13 197 of 1 June 1837: Thomas Burke executor of the late Henry Lambert late of Aggard, Co Galway, & Margaret Burke one of the daughters and legatees of Henry Lambert 1st part; Thomas Lahip of Russane, Co Galway & Anne Lahip of Russane otherwise Kirwan otherwise Lambert, deceased, of 2nd part; Thomas Homan Pilkington of Abbeyville, Co Galway, and Jane Pilkington [otherwise] Lambert his wife, one other of the daughters and legatees of Henry Lambert deceased 3rd part; Wm North [sic, as per the memorial in the Registry of Deeds (EN email 22 Oct 2008), but that should be Joseph, not William] of Northbrook, Co Galway and Letitia North, otherwise Lambert his wife, one other of the daughters and legatees of said Henry, 4^th part; Walter Lambert of Castlelawbert?, Co Galway, 5th part; Richard O’Farrell of Treud?, Portarlington, Queens Co, late Lt Col in the 41st Reg Foot, 6^th part - the said Thomas Burke and Margaret Burke, Thomas Lahiff and Anne, Thomas Homan Pilkington and Letitia, and Walter grant bargain ... £1,000 part of £3,500 charged on the lands of Streamstown and Ballydrinny Galway - eight title & interest - Thomas Lambert the elder deceased - for trust for his younger children (EN email 14 Oct 2008; CN email 7 Feb 2009).  Thomas Patrick Burke, Thomas Lahiff, trustee, and Thomas Homan Pilkington, son of Abraham John Pilkington of Killbride, Co Westmeath [by his first wife; he subsequently married Mary Elizabeth North], and his wife Jane Lambert, are also involved in deed 1837 10 173 in which funds from Henry Lambert's marriage settlement and estate were put into trust for the benefit of Thomas and Jane and heirs; mentions lands of Great and Little Aggart and lands of Abbeyville (otherwise Russells Careton) (CN email 28 Apr 2009)

7a Letitia Henrietta North, baptised 11 Sep 1834 in Galway (parish records: EN email 6 Dec 2008). In 1853 Anne Pilkington (6d below) was staying 'with Roger', 'and so is poor Joseph's eldest daughter' (Oswego letters).  The Roger may be Roger North of Cappa, Galway who in 1839 m 6g Deborah North of Tyrrellspass (EN email 9 May 2008)

7b William Henry North, baptised 7 Jul 1838 in Galway (parish records: EN email 6 Dec 2008), may have m Anne Russell (deed 1882 22 225).  Deed 1880 39 259 of 14 July 1880: William Henry North of Roseville, Dublin, sold 23 Lr Gardiner St, Dublin, to Rev J McCormack, Iniskeen Rectory Dundalk (EN email 27 Feb 2009).  Deed 1882 22 223 re mortgage to William Henry North over land in Dublin: North, having been paid the mortgage, made over all the lands (EN email 11 Feb 2009) and deed 1880 22 225 or 1882 22 225 of 24 June 1882 re William John Russell of Ballinderry Park, Co Tipperary & Anne North otherwise Russell, wife of William Henry North of Rhaniskey, Co Dublin - re will of Bart Campbell Russell died Sep 1874, re settlement for marriage Anne North and John Russell and £500 (EN email 11 Feb 2009) - possible that these deeds refer to this William Henry.  Deed 1891 27 205: William Henry North of Delmain, Co Dublin, 1st part; Emily Preston Nagle of Hardwick St, Dublin, widow, 2nd part; and Louisa Nagle of same place, spinster, 3rd part - re lease or mortgage of houses in Dublin, Gardiner St (EN email 4 Mar 2009).  Deed 1894 64 188 also concerns William Henry North, re rear of 667 Mountjoy Sq and Gardiner Place, Dublin (EN email 4 Mar 2009)

7c Anne Maud North, baptised 1842 in Galway (parish records: EN email 6 Dec 2008)

6c Samuel Wade North b 1810 (EN email 11 Mar 2008) or 1818 (EN email 11 Sep 2009) m in Canada Mary Fahey, b 1837 in Quebec (EN email 11 Mar 2008), moved to the USA and had issue (EN email 11 Sep 2009).  The New York Times (New-York Daily Times) of 12 July 1853 reported the appointment of a successor to Samuel North of Oswego County as principal clerk of the Appointment Office of the Post Office Dept; Samuel moved to Special Mail Agent for New York (SP email 12 Dec 2008)

7a Joseph Edward North b 1854 Jonesville, WI (EN email 11 Sep 2009)

7b Henry Whitestone North, b 1858 at Onalaska, La Crosse Co, Wisconsin, m c1900 Ida Loraina Wilhelmina Ringling of Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin, b 1874, d 1950, only sister of seven Ringling Brothers, and had issue (EN email 11 Mar 2008).  There is more about the Ringling Norths on a Rootsweb Dowling website

8a John Ringling North, b 1903, d 1985

8b Henry Whitestone Ringling North, known as Buddy, b 1910 (or 12 Nov 1909), d 1993 (or 2 Oct 1983) at Begnins, near Geneva.  Former owner manager Ringling Bros; Barnum & Bailey Circus (1936 - 1967); graduate from Yale (1933); served World War II, Navy and Office of Strategic Services, earned Silver Star; officer in two oil firms in Oklahoma; became an Irish citizen in 1960s in order to invest in gold.  Married (1) Ada Mae Thornburg, divorced; m(2) in 1933 Harriet Maxine Weaver, divorced 1945; m(3) in 1946 Elisabeth Palmer Barnum (CN email 4 Nov 2009), had one child, divorced 1953; and m(4) in 1959, Gloria de la Feld, whom he left a widow (EN emails 11 & 16 Sep 2009; Internet Movie Database).  In Aughrim Church of Ireland Churchyard there is a small stone 'Commander Henry Ringling North, US Navy, Silver Star WWII, 1909 - 1993' (EN email 4 Jun 2008)

8c Salome Ringling North

7c Frances Margaret North b 1863, m Stephen Douglas Thayer (EN email 11 Sep 2009)

7d Mary North b 1864, m Robert Ora Dunna (EN email 11 Sep 2009)

7e Rachel North b 1868 (EN email 16 Nov 2009)

7f Sam Percy North m Martha Annette Macauley (EN email 16 Nov 2009)

7g Florence Edna North b 1875 m James Russell Bond (EN email 11 Sep 2009)

6d Ann North or Anne Elizabeth North, m Henry Pilkington and had issue.  She signs herself Mrs H Pilkington in the Oswego letters.  Anna E North & Henry Pilkington, marriage bond, 1838, Meath (CPR 1922 WW43).  No death record found as yet (SP email 3 Jan 2009).  Her husband d 8 Nov 1840 from tuberculosis in his 31st (possibly 51st) year (EN email 8 May 2008) and the following year she was keeping a boarding house in Kingstown (Oswego letters).  There is a marriage bond from the Parish Registers for Meath in the National Archives, 1838, Anne Eliz North, Henry Pilkington (EN email 19 Apr 2008).  There still extant copies of about seven letters to Oswego, New York, that she and her sisters wrote dating from 1840 though the famine to 1853, in the manuscripts department of the National Library of Ireland (EN email 9 May 2008), which have given us some clues to her family.  About half of the letters are crossed (written in two directions, one on top of the other) and very hard to decipher.  There has been a suggestion, but so far no evidence, that she, or one of her brothers, went to Australia (EN emails 8 & 9 May 2008; SP email 31 Dec 2008).  Thoms records an Elizabeth Pilkington at 1 Victoria Tce, Kingstown, from 1845 to 1852 inclusive.  The Thomas Pilkington of deed 1839 21 84 in the Registry of Deeds (EN email 10 Mar 2008) may be her father in law: 1 Oct 1839 Between Thomas Thoman? Pilkington (Thomas Homan Pilkington?) of Abbeyville and Thos Lahiff? of Rufsane? both of Co Galway 1st part; Margaret Anne North, otherwise Whitestone of  ----? in said County, widow [Ann's mother] of 2nd part; & Joseph North, Letitia North his wife both of Northbrook of 3rd part; refers to marriage settlement of Harvey or Henry Lambert  ---- of Aggard; refers to Letitia Lambert otherwise North, & Henry Lambert’s last will and testament of Jan 1826 & a sum of £4000: involvement of Pilkington, Thos Lahiff? and Margaret Ann North £1000.  Deed 1844 18 78 of 13 Nov 1844 is an indented deed of assignment by way of a mortgage between Margaret North of Spruce Hill, Co Galway, widow [Ann's mother]; & Ann Elizabeth Pilkington, 1 Victoria Tce, Kingstown, widow - in consideration of £200 and £10 in hand paid to Margaret North by Anne Elizabeth Pilkington, Margaret North did grant bargain sell and set over unto Anne Elizabeth Pilkington, her executors etc, all that and those the annuity or jointure of seventy pounds a year by the therein articles of agreement of 5 Oct 1804 [Margaret's marriage settlement] provided for and secured to the said Margaret North and her assigns [issue?] during the term of her natural life and thereby charged and chargeable upon the lands of Northbrook, otherwise Garrynahone, Co Galway, and all arrears and future payments thereof, until by receipt and perception thereof she or they should be fully paid and satisfied the said principal sum of £510 together with interest at three pounds per cent per annum from the day of the date of said deed and said Margaret North did thereby covenant that the sum of £300 was then due and owing on said jointure; witnesses William Gibson, solicitor, and James Reilly, servant to Anne Elizabeth Pilkington (EN email 1 Feb 2009; CN email 29 May 2009)

7a daughter Pilkington, b 1839: 'my eldest child but a year old when her poor father taken from her' (Oswego letters, Oct 1841).  Anne's daughter five months old - 'a little prodigy' (Oswego letters, Mar 1840)

7b 'youngest daughter born 4 months after her father died' i.e. Feb 1841 (Oswego letters, Oct 1841).  The 'little girls are very talented and promise to be good looking; she [Anne] is straining every point to give them a superior education' (Oswego letters, Dec 1851)

6e ?Jane North (on the 1854 Griffiths (also a Joseph North of Tobergrellan): Co Galway, Barony Clonmacowen, Parish Kilcloony, townland Brackernagh: EN email 16 Nov 2009)

6f John Longworth North, baptised 3 Jul 1814, son of Ann Margaret North (parish records: EN email 6 Dec 2008), d Feb 1842 (Oswego letters)

6g Alicia Margaretta North, baptised 28 Nov 1815 in Galway (parish records: EN email 6 Dec 2008), d 11 Nov 1903 in Canada (SP emails 12 Mar & 8 May 2008), m 1853 Charles Preston, b 28 Apr 1803, d 2 Feb 1888, Captain, in a Catholic cememony, and had issue.  The family ended up in Canada.  See Preston Genealogy by William Bowker Preston (EN email 10 May 2008) and http://www.william1.co.uk/c18.htm

7a Jenico Edward Preston, b 30 Nov 1855, d 27 Jan 1940, unmarried, Lt Col, Afghanistan and Burma (EN email 10 May 2008)

7b Charles Arthur Preston,  b 19 Jun 1857, d 7 Jun 1924 in Canada, m Miriam Alleyne, d 1836, daughter of Hon Charles Alleyne of Canada and had issue (EN email 10 May 2008)

6h Richard North, son of William and Margaret North, baptised 24 Nov 1817 in Galway (parish records: EN email 6 Dec 2008). He is mentioned in the Oswego letters.  Richard North, occulist, aged 43, born in Ireland, appears in the Jeffersonville, Indiana, census of 1860 (SP email 10 Dec 2008)

6i Charles North b c1820 (aged 60 in 1880 census), Charles B North baptised 7 Jan 1819 in Galway (parish records: EN email 6 Dec 2008), m Harriet Mitchell or Harrait Mitchell b c1822 Massachusetts, USA (1880 census). He was a tanner (1850 census) and farmer (1870 census) and leather manufacturer (1880 census).  They lived in Oswego, New York (State) and had issue.  Charles North was involved in local government in Oswego (SP emails 9 May & 10 Dec 2008)

7a William North b c1846 (aged 4 in 1850 census) (SP email 10 Dec 2008)

7b Elitia North b c1849 (aged 1 in 1850 census) (SP email 10 Dec 2008)

7c ? Margaret Ann North: 'Mama' (Charles' mother) 'was so gratified by your last letter mentioning that you named your last little girl after her' (Oswego letters, Dec 1852).  No daughter of this name appears in the subsequent census documents, so she may have died young

7d Laura North, b c1855 (aged 15 in 1870 census) (SP email 15 May 2008)

7e Sarah North b c1860 (1870 and 1880 census)

7f Luisia North b c1866 (aged 4 in 1870 census) or c1861 (1880 census)

6j Rachel North, b c1823 or Rachel Harriet North baptised 27 May 1820 (parish records: EN email 6 Dec 2008), d 1839 (will) aged 16 at Spruce Hill, Galway City. Prerogative Grants, book 1839, fol 33b records Rachel North, £184.00, died 17 Jan 1839, late of Spruce Hill, Galway, Spinster, Intestate, granted … to Margaret Ann North [presumably her mother, Margaret Whitestone] of the same place, widow, sworn 14th Feb 1839 (EN email 11 Apr 2008).

6k John  North (appears in the 1881 Slaters in Galway City).  John North, son of Margaret and William North was baptised in Galway on 15 Nov 1824 (parish records: EN emails 6 Dec 2008 & 18 Feb 2009)

6l George F A  North married, had children and died in Queens, NY.  The 1900 census says he was born in 1825 and aged 74 (SP email 13 Dec 2008).  [A George Augustus Patrick North was baptised in Galway 25 Sep 1821 - parish records: EN email 6 Dec 2008 - no parents listed: may not be this George North - see unplaced Norths].  Photo (SP email 16 Mar 2008).  In the 1870 Kings Co New York State census, George was a school teacher aged 44; wife Sarah A North aged 38, teacher, born in New York (SP email 13 Dec 2008)

7a William F North, b c1849, aged 21 in 1870, b New York, printer (SP email 13 Dec 2008)

7b Charles E North, b 1853, aged 17 in 1870, b New York, printer (SP email 13 Dec 2008)

7c George A F North, b c1860, aged 10 in 1870, b New York, m Emma F ---, b 1860 (1900 US census: SP email 13 Dec 2008) and had issue

8a Marjorie North (? - not clear), b c 1895, aged in 1900 (SP email 13 Dec 2008)

8b George North, in 1910 census (SP email 13 Dec 2008)

7d Arthur N North, b c1863, aged 7 in 1870, b New York (SP email 13 Dec 2008)

7e Henry L North, b 1874 New York, aged 26 in 1900, clerk - ?bond (SP email 13 Dec 2008)

5b ? Joseph North.  A Joseph North had a will proved in Cappa, Galway in 1839: Prerog Grant Bk 1839 Fol 91 B (EN email 11 Apr 2008), 'Joseph North, Cappa, Galway, £180.00. Last Will … Joseph North, late of Cappa, proved in common law unto Roger North of the same place, near Kilconnell, sole executor; sworn personally, 16 May 1839.'  A Joseph North, Ahascragh, was buried in Galway on 11 Dec 1840, aged 55 years (parish records: EN email 6 Dec 2008) i.e. born c1785.  These two Josephs could be the same person if 16 May 1839 is the date of the will and 11 Dec 1840 the date of burial.  This would be about the correct age for a brother of William.  Galway parish records record two children of a Joseph and Eleanor or Ellen North.  The Oswego letter of 1840 records that a Joseph left his wife and daughters (plural) destitute on 12 Mar 1840, and they were looked after by his son.  Query whether that might be a son from an earlier marriage, to make him old enough to look after them.  It appears from the same letter that Joseph was cut off by his father with only a shilling, which thwarted his hopes of obtaining a ministry (and presumably an income to go with it) and took a house in Ahascragh instead

6a Elizabeth Ann North baptised 1831, daughter of  Joseph North and Eleanor North (of ?Rathinoler) (Galway parish records: EN email 6 Dec 2008)

6b William North, son of 'Joseph and Ellen North' was baptised in 1834 in Galway (parish records: EN email 6 Dec 2008)

6c ?Rachel North.  The Oswego letter of 1840 records that a Joseph left his wife and daughters (plural) destitute in 1840.  Possibly one of the daughters is Rachel North of Dorset St, spinster of full age, dau of Joseph North, officer in the army, m 22 Mar 1850 John Wraftor of 66 Aunger St, gentleman, son of Patrick Wraftor, gentleman, witness David North (St Peter parish records, Dublin).  This may be the marriage referred to in the Oswego letter dated 17 May 1850: 'Joe North our cousin is dead and ... Rachel has been married since very comfortably'.  There is no evidence, though, that Joseph of Cappa who died in 1839 or 1840 was 'an officer in the army'.  A 'cousin' Joe is most likely a son of Joseph North, so a brother to this Rachael (assuming there was a relationship - Rachel, if she is the one who married, can't be cousin Joe's widow (she was a spinster) and she can't be his daughter (she was of full age, so born in or before 1829), so on that basis we can add a brother, Joe, here.  David North, the witness to the 1850 marriage, might be David North of Farview, brother of Uncle Roger's wife Deborah North - though why he would be witness, rather than Uncle Roger himself, we might only guess

6d ?Joe North, the 'Joe North our cousin is dead' in the Oswego letter dated 17 May 1850.  There is no other evidence of this cousin Joe North to date

5c ? Roger North, b c1792, d 10 May 1876.  A Roger North d 10 May 1876 in Tyrrelspass, Co Westmeath, aged 84 (so b c1792), widower, 'lieutenant on half pay from marines'; the informant listed on the extract of the death certificate is J B North (sic: there is no known J B North of this era and geography; J B North is almost certainly a mistake for J P North, ie Joseph Pim North, Roger's executor) (death certificate: SP email 22 Mar 2008).  Roger North of Tyrrellspass was a member of the Church of Ireland Parish of Clonfadforan, 'dead 31 Jan 1877'; R North donated £5 to the Parish in 1870 (Parish of Clonfad Foran records, COI library, Churchtown: EN email 29 Mar 2009).  Deborah North & Roger North, marriage bond, 1839, Meath (CPR 1922 WW43): Deborah North of the marriage bond is almost certainly 6e Deborah North of Tyrrellspass, Westmeath, and Roger of the marriage bond is this Roger.  Their marriage is mentioned in the 1840 Oswego letter, which also says Roger 'has disposed of Cappa' and is likely to go to reside in Westmeath.  Deed 1839 15 189 is their marriage settlement.  Roger left a will (EN email 3 Apr 2008) for an estate under £1,000, executor Captain Joseph Pim North, Deborah's nephew.  Note also the Roger North of Tyrrellspass who gave rents and land to 'her relatives' the brothers Joseph Pim North and David Bomford North 'out of natural love and affection' (1870 Book 37 No. 155): he is most likely this Roger North. From the association with the brothers Joseph Pim North and David North, it is thought that the Roger who gave them rents and land must be some sort of relation; if Roger's wife was Deborah, and especially if they had no children of their own, that could be the connection.  H G Hart's annual army lists for 1848 to 1853 (at least) list Roger North RM, Ensign 9 Mar 1813, half pay from 24 Nov 1824 (EN email 17 May 2008).  Roger has been placed here with Joseph North because of the association between Joseph and the Roger North 'of Cappa' whom he named as executor of his will - they may well be brothers.  What is not clear is why they seem to have been closer to the Norths of Whitewell than the family of their supposed brother, William of Northbrook, at least where land and money were concerned.  Deed 1835 19 20 of  22 Jul 1835 records a transaction between Joseph North of Northbrook, Galway, and Roger North of Cappard in said Co, whereby Joseph North demised to Roger North all that … lands of Northbrook known of the name of Cow Park ... 26 half acres … for the said lives of Roger North the leasee and of Roger Robert North youngest son of David North of Fairview and of Gustavus Wade, youngest son of Thomas Wade of Fairfield, Co Galway or for 31 years whichever last longer at a yearly rent £1 per acre from 1 May 1836 (EN email 11 Mar 2008; CN email 5 Sep 2009).  Cappard was in Loughrea Barony, Kilthomas parish, Galway (SP email 11 Mar 2008); Cappa is a small village just north of Portumna on Lough Derg (SP email 16 Jan 2008).  The Centre for Irish Study in Galway has a collection of Wade papers (SP email 15 Mar 2008).  Roger, perhaps with his brother Joseph, appears to have inherited their father Joseph of Northbrook's moiety in Kilbride, which the father Joseph leased for lives to his brother Roger of Kilbride (deed 356 125 238786 refers); the East Division was leased by Joseph (senior) to Mary Elizabeth North in 1805 (deed 582 258 393193).  Roger appears to have had the whole of their father's half interest by the time of his marriage settlement  in 1839, so it is not clear that brother Joseph ever had an interest: perhaps Joseph was the third son.  Roger's interest was left to Joseph Pim North in terms of the marriage settlement and deed 1870 37 155. The legal position with respect to the East Division (91 acres 3 roods & 3 perches) of Kilbride was clarified by deed 1875 54 299

4d daughters (SP1).  These 'daughters' may well be daughters of 'Aunt Wolfe' by an earlier marriage: Lydia Cahill and Rose Cahill

3b John North of Tyrrellspass and Kilbride (Whitewell), b 1707 (SP1), probably alive 1786 (16.3.1), m 1730 Margaret Abernethy b 1710 (SP1), possibly a daughter or sister of Henry Abernethy (above) (SP2) and had issue.  Possibly Margaret died early, and John subsequently married his cousin, Mary North.  Deed 152 471 104582 possibly relates to this John North as his father Roger and brother William were 'of Kilbride'.  It is a lease dated 2nd June 1749: John North of Kilbride, Westmeath, farmer, did demise let and to farm to Bartholomew Egan of Kilbride all that part of Kilbride joining Gibbonstown, 110 acres, to hold for 24 years – witness John Egan son of Bart Egan and William [North?] City of Dublin (EN email 6 Dec 2008; CN email 17 Feb 2009).  That interpretation is confirmed by Deed 154 472 104583 of 1752: John North of Whitewell set Bart Egan 129 acres of Whitewell from 1 May for 22 years at £90, sworn 26 Aug 1752 (EN email 6 Dec 2008).  By deeds of lease and release dated 21 & 22 Jul 1757 (deed 1757 434 125350 (CN email 25 Jan 2010), recited in deed 290 362 192544), Thos Smith of Drumcree, Westmeath, did demise, grant, sett and to farm let unto John North of Fairfield, Kings Co, all that part of the town and lands of Kilbride by the name of Whitewell, 240 acres more or less, Fartullagh, Westmeath, to hold to said John North heirs etc for the lives of his son, Roger North of Dublin, Chas North, 3rd son of Roger then of Newcastle, Westmeath, and Jas McCabe of Bracklin – yearly rent £97 19s 6d lease containing covenants for renewing the same forever on payment of a pepercorn fine for renewal on the fall of every life.  The 1749 lease of 110 ac plus the 1752 lease of 129 ac totals to the 240 ac of the 1757 lease, so presumably this is the same land.  Deed 1816-18 705 542/3 483478 recites an earlier deed (1785 357 244676: CN email 21 Jul 2009), a lease dated 2 Aug 1784 made between Archibold Armstrong of City of Dublin merchant of the one part & John North of Tyrrellspass in the coy of Westmeath gent of the other part whereby the sd Archibold Armstrong did devise unto the said John North all that & those these parts of the lands of Tinnakelly & Upper & Lower Tinnikelly contg 235 ac & 3 roods & 2p plantation measure (CN email 11 Mar 2008).  The lease was for the lives of George Rochfort Hume, Roger Briggs and Benjamin Briggs, sons of Thomas Briggs of Tyrrellstown or 31 years at an annual rent of £105.  By deed 425 55 275840 of 20 Apr 1786, John and his wife Mary subsequently demised their interest in Tinnekelly to Roger North of Birr in return for an annuity

4a Roger North of Whitewell (CoN), ironmonger, m 1760 ('1769': ML) Deborah Leland, daughter of Robert Leland, a glass grinder with a handsome fortune (SP1, from The Irish Genealogist), and had issue.  Deborah's mother and Robert Leland's wife was Margaret Leland who left a will dated 7 Feb 1759, proved 12 Jun 1759: Margaret Leland widow, 7^th February 1759; her son in law Thomas Bond; her son in law Edward Mockler; her daughter Mary Mockler; her children Jane Bond, Robert Leland, Deborah Leland; her daughter in law Margaret Leland; her grandchildren [i.e. children of Robert Leland jnr and Margaret his wife] Samuel Leland & Ann Leland; her servant Catherine Hendrich; her house at Ormond Quay, Dublin (Abstract of Wills, Reg of Deeds, vol II 1746 – 1785, copy in National Library, Dublin: EN email 15 Mar 2009).  For more on the Lelands see Irish Furniture by Knight of Glin, James Peill, Fames Fennell Dara McGrath, Yale Uni Press, 2007, page 294 (CN emails 18 Mar 2009: that document indicates that Robert Leland senior was a looking glass manufacturer and had another son, John Leland, who took over his father's business in 1757, and then appears to have died before his mother; Robert senior also seems to have had a brother, Ralph Leland, also a looking glass manufacturer).  Deed 206 401 136607 of 6 Aug 1760 is their marriage settlement: John North of Fairfield, Kings Co, gent, 1st part & Roger North of the City of Dublin, ironmonger, 2nd part; Deborah Leland, spinster, 3rd daughter of Robert Leland, late of the said City, merchant, deceased, 3rd part; Thomas [Edward?] Mockler of the City of Dublin, jeweller & Thomas Bond, tobacconist, 4th part - reciting marriage intended between Roger North & Deborah Leland by which article John North did grant unto Edw Mockler & Thomas Bond [in trust] all ye part of town and lands of Kilbride known as Whitewell then in possession of John North 240 acres, with provisions for annuities as charges on the land, witnessed James Smith, Richard Thwaites (EN email 6 Dec 2008).  Deed 290 362 192544 of 4 Aug 1772: John North of Kilbride, Roger North Whitewell eldest son of J North, and Edward Mockler of Dublin, jeweller and Thomas Bond of Dublin, tobacconist - reciting lease of 22 Jul 1757 under which Thomas Smith of Drumcree, Westmeath, did demise and set unto John North all that part of the town and lands of Kilbride by the name of Whitewell and then in the possession of said John North, 240 acres more or less, Fartullagh, Westmeath, to hold to said John North heirs etc for the lives of Roger North of Dublin, Chas North, 3rd son of Roger then of Newcastle, Westmeath, and James McCabe of Bracklin, yearly rent £97 19s 6d, lease containing covenants for renewing the same forever on payment of a pepercorn fine for renewal on the fall of every life - and by the said first mentioned deed it is witnessed that the said John North and Roger North for and in consideration of £200 stg to them paid by the said Edward Mockler and Thos Bond did give grant an annuity for yearly rent charge of £20 chargeable on the lands – for & during the natural life of Robert Leland of the City of Dublin, cabinet maker, to be paid half yearly during the said Term every 13 Feb and Aug, signed John North, Roger North, Ed Mockler, Thos Bond, witnessed Wm Cormick, sadler, & Wm Aberneth [Abernethy?], farmer, both of Mullingar (EN email 14 Oct 2008). For another version of the 1757 deed, see 16.3.1. For more Mocklers see 15.6.  James McCabe of Bracklin is almost certainly the brother of Bridget McCabe, wife of Joseph North of Bracklyn.  Robert Leland, cabinet maker, was a son of the late Robert Leland, glass grinder and merchant, Deborah's father.  A related deed appears to be 359 361 243805 also of 13 Aug 1772: it is lengthy and very faint but concerns the same people as deed 290 362 192544 plus Philip North (EN email 7 Sep 2008)

5a John North of Whitewell (16.3), b c1760 [or b c1750], d 21 May (SP1) 1836 or 1838 (23.7 - partly legible gravestone) aged 88 (SP1) [a 1750 date of birth does not sit well with his parents' marriage date: b c1760 seems more likely on that basis], m Sep 1786 Anne Bomford (16.3, SP1, ML) b c1764, alive in 1835 (23.7) d 19 Dec c1856 (from her birth date, not entirely legible gravestone and age at death) aged 92 (SP1) and had issue.  Deed 1786 377 288 252340 is their marriage settlement.  A codicil to the will of Anne's father, David Bomford, records that in 1807 John was suing for a fortune (19.6).  Deed 1829 846 146 566646 of 3 Feb 1829 involved John North of Whitewell, John Roger North of Dublin, formerly of Whitewell, John's first son and heir of Whitewell, and as trustees, Isaac North of Ferrans, Co Meath [another of John's sons], Samuel Gerrard of Tallyho, Westmeath, & John Joshua Pim of Lower Gardiner St, Dublin, wine merchant.  John North  had in 1810 already demised to John Roger North lands of Whitewell known as Hopesfarm [for Hopesfarm see SP email 22 Feb 2009].  John wished to make provision for his three unmarried daughters, Deborah, Sophie and Jane North.  By the terms of the deed, John Roger North agreed to pay the sum of £700 on the death of John North to be shared among the three daughters as set out in John's will, or otherwise equally among the surviving daughters, or their issue if none were alive, and if no issue then according to judgement; in return for which agreement, John agreed to pay John Roger an annuity of £25 out of the rents etc of Whitewell from the previous November until John's death, and gave John Roger right to enter and re-enter the land with powers of distress if the annuity was not paid.  To secure the deal, John Roger signed a confession to judgement by which the trustees could obtain the £700, plus interest at 6% from the date of John's death and in default the penal sum of £1,400, less any amounts of unpaid annuity due to John Roger, and both John and John Roger granted the whole of Whitewell, 240 acres plantation, to the trustees for 1,000 years at a peppercorn rent [until and unless all obligations had been discharged] (EN email 27 Sep 2008, CN email 12 Feb 2009).  Two years later, John was insolvent: deed 874 451 580951 is an Indenture of Lease dated 20 Aug 1831 concerning this John North.  It was made between Godfrey Wills Berry of Tyrrellspass [this John's son in law], assignee of estate & effects of John North an Insolvent 1st part; and John North of Tyrrellspass 2nd part; & Arthur Grose of Whitewell 3rd part - that part of Whitewell in John's possession, 104 acres 2 roods 30 perches, and the house and offices thereon, was transferred to Arthur Grose for yearly rent of £208 per annum from 1st May during the natural life and lives of Eleanor North wife of John Roger North, Arthur Grose the lessee, and Arthur Gallagher Grose his only son, or 31 years etc (EN email 14 Sep 2008; CN emails 17 Feb & 15 Jun 2009)

6a John Roger North b c1787 (23.7), d before 1858 (23.7), attorney, m 1829 (ML) Eleanor Barbour or Eleanor Barber or Elleanor Barbour d 16 Dec 1858 (23.7) at Whitewell, and had issue (SP7; EN email 15 Mar 2008, citing 'copy of entries from family Bible presented to Mr John Roger North on 1 March 1830', more than one version of a family tree, some with annotations by Mr Goodwillie and others, and a memorium (copy of gravestone inscription?) from National Archives collection M5608; the Bible entries record several undated deaths and the dates of baptisms in St Georges Church; the date of the Bible entries is not known, but is after Charlotte married in 1865; the date of the family trees is not known, but they were prepared for the executors of the estate of Edith North Johnson, d 14 Nov 1938).  Eleanor might be related to Robert Christopher Barbor whose estate was offered for sale in the Encumbered Estates Court in May 1857 (SP email 17 Jul 2008).  The Kings Inns Admission Papers 1607 – 1867 (Irish Manuscripts Commission 1982: EN email 21 Sep 2009) record North, John, 1st son of John [North], [of] Whitewell, bond attorney T[rinity term] 1810.  Deed 609 374 4219659 of 24 July 1809 between John North of Whitewell, Westmeath, gent and John Roger North of Whitewell, gent, 1st part & Edward Synge of Burden Park, Westmeath, other part - reciting that John North and John Roger North for consideration therein mentioned did demise grant set to farm to Ed Synge Cooper actual prop then being by virtue of a bargain and sale to him thereof by John North and John Roger North for one whole year bearing date the day before the date of this deed, made and provided to his heirs and assigns all that and those part of the town and lands of Whitewell then the prop of said Edward Synge Cooper situ lying between and being the the Barony of Fartullagh Westmeath, the whole 60 ac 2 r 35 p of land plant measure from 1 Nov for the lives therein mentioned at a yearly rent (EN email 4 Mar 2009).  Dublin directories from 1834 to 1847 record John Roger North at 2 Hutton's Lane; from 1841 to 1844 at Drumcondra Road in suburban Dublin; in 1846 at 5 Drumcondra Hill; as an attorney at 1 Portland St in 1847 and 1848; and from 1848 to 1850 at Osborne Tce, Dalkey (EN email 8 Feb 2010).  In 1843 by deed 1843 15 215 (CN emails 10 Aug & 4 Sep 2009) Arthur Grose conveyed to David North of Mecklenburgh St in the city of Dublin esq, with the permission of John Roger North of Drumcondra, Dublin, the remainder of the term of a lease for 31 years or for lives of 104 ac 2 rd 30 pch plantation measure of Whitewell, formerly in the possession of John North deceased, in return for Arthur's payment of £180/16/3 and Arthur's release from all debts on or in relation to the land 'from the begining of the world to the date of said indenture'.  This sounds like Arthur was in debt to John Roger North, and gave the lease back with a payment in return for release from and discharge of the debt.  It is not clear why the land was conveyed to David North rather than to John Roger North; the David that got the land was probably John Roger's brother David, as John Roger's son David was only 6 and unlikely to have been 'of Mecklenburgh St'.  The deed refers to other agreements dated 20 Aug 1821, 29 Dec 1837 and 15 Sep 1843, which remain on foot except in so far as they relate to the disability of Arthur Grose.  In 1847, by deed 1847 14 55, John Roger leased for lives or 31 years the dwelling house, offices and demesne lands of Whitewell containing 100 acres Irish plantation measure, late in the possession of Edward Danial Duffy, to John George Battersby, MD, of Milltown, Co Westmeath, 'all mines minerals and royalties of what nature or kind soever' excepted, for £201 a year (EN email 1 Feb 2009; CN email 28 Aug 2009).  The deed outlines other parts of Whitewell at that time, including W Cooper’s holding of Whitewell on the north, Nancy Egan’s holding of Whitewell to the east, and the said Roger North’s tenants holding of the lower part of Whitewell to the south

7a John North, b 21 Aug 1829 (family Bible) or c1840 (23.7), baptised 8 Sep 1829 from Mid MtJoy St (St George parish records, Dublin), d 25 Nov 1902 (extract of will in the National Archives, estate £3,004: EN email 3 Apr 2008), m in Dublin 27 Aug 1869 Susanna Clarke, b 1843, d 4 May 1899, daughter of Frederick Clarke Esq from Rathgar (Thoms 1874 directory records Frederick Clarke Esq at 1 Garda Tce, Rathgar Ave, Dublin), and had issue. John may have lived at Whitewell, as least up until 1859.  Deed 1859 37 180 records a lease for lives or 31 years, at a rent of £201 pa, of the 'dwelling house, office and demensne' of Whitewell, 100 acres plantation [162 statute], from John North of Whitewell (presumably this John, following the death of his father) to Laurence and Michael Gavan (this house and land had previously been leased by John's father to George Battersby in 1847 (deed 1847 14 55).  The 1859 deed outlines the other parts of Whitewell at that time, including Mrs Cooper’s holding of Whitewell to the north, Nancy Egan’s building of Whitewell to the east, and John and his tenants' land in the 'town part' of Whitewell to the south.  Deed 1875 2 50 of 5 Jan 1875 looks like a renewal of the Cooper lease: between John North of Bushfield Ave, Donnybrook, Dublin; and Colonel Joshua Harry Cooper of Duboden, Westmeath - reciting lease/deed of 24 Feb 1809 in which John North and John Roger North demised unto Edward Synge Cooper and his heirs --- he the said John North did thereby grant unto said J H Cooper, his heirs etc all that part of towns and lands of Whitewell --- North hunting rights --- Cooper to pay rent £127 (EN email 11 Feb 2009).  From the 1860s at least, John lived in Donnybrook, Dublin: Thoms records a John North at 16 Upper Rutland St from 1862 to 1872; he may have been 'a bit of a property developer' (EN emails 8 Mar 2008).  Deed 1870 14 85 of 10 May 1870 concerns John North, Susannah North otherwise Clarke of Bushfield Ave, Annie Clarke, Garden Tce, Rathgar, spinster; the said John North & Thomas Goodwillie of 28 Bellgrave Sq South, Rathmines ... lease of 25 Aug 1868 part of land at Brighton Sq belonging to Susannah and Annie (EN email 27 Sep 2008).  Deed 1870 27 282 of Sept 1870: John North of Bushfield Ave, and Frederick Baker of Blessington St, re piece of ground at Bushfield Ave, Dublin (EN email 17 Feb 2009).  Deed 1874 46 48 concerns a plot of land Frankfort Ave, Dublin, ref Frederick Clarke, his daughter Annie Clarke, and John North: sale/lease to Mark Cumberland Bentley (EN email 27 Sep 2008).  Landowners of Ireland 1876 lists John North of Bushfield Ave as owning 305 acres in Westmeath.  Deed 1878 54 6 of 4 Sept 1878: Annie Clarke assigned to Peter Charles Carnarlon and Margaret his wife and John North and Susanne his wife a plot of ground in Rathfarnham, Dublin; Thomas Goodwillie was trustee (EN email 11 Feb 2009).  A John North was at 85 Marlborough Rd in 1896 (Thoms Directory, 1896: EN email 26 Jan 2010): in 1903, after John died, that address was used by his nephew, Henry Herbert North.  John's executor was his daughter, Augusta Sterne (EN email 3 Apr 2008).  Whitewell seems to have passed to his brother Alfred Roger North and/or Alfred's sons (below)

8a Augusta Susanna Elizabeth North, b 1870 in Dublin, baptised 1870 from 56 Bushfield Ave (Sandford parish records, Dublin), d 2nd quarter 1906 in Kingston, Middlesex Surrey England (SP email 11 Dec 2007), m in Dublin 2 Feb1900 William Macbeth Sterne, b in Clare, son of Augustus Sterne (SP7), no issue (family tree).  Sandford Parish CoI records record Augusta Susanna Elizabeth North as a daughter of John and Susanna North in 1870 (EN email 12 Feb 2010).

8b Emily Constance North, baptised 10 Oct 1872 (Dublin City Library, Parish Baptisms, C of I, Sandford, EN email 8 May 2008), or b 1872, baptised 1873 from 85 Bushfield Ave (Sandford parish records)

8c Claire North, died without issue (family tree); Clare Frederica Marguerite North, b 21 Jul 1875, baptised 24 Nov 1875 (Leeson Park parish records, Dublin), d 29 May 1891 aged 15 at Donnybrook, dau of a gentleman, aunt Margaret Caernarton present at death (death certificate: SP email 5 May 2008)

8d Hermione North, b 27 Jan 1880, baptised 15 Aug 1880, dau of John North and Susannah North of 85 Bushfield Ave (Leeson Park parish records)

7b Marianne North or Mariane North b 23 Apr 1831, of 18 Grenville St when baptised 4 May 1831 (St  George parish records, Dublin) 'dead' (family Bible) without issue (family tree).  A Maria North late of 14 Upr Rutland St, Dublin, spinster, d 8 Aug 1902 and probate was granted on 23 Aug 1902 to John North, gent, effects £226.5s.  No Maria North in the tree meets that description.  From the address, possibly she was this Marianne and John was her brother, who himself died only months later

7c Isaac North, b 23 Apr 1832, of 2 Lower Mt Joy Place when baptised on 24 Jun 1832 (St George parish records, Dublin), 'dead' (family Bible) without issue (family tree)

7d Sarah North, b 31 Jan 1834, of Lower Mountjoy place when baptised 23 Feb 1834 (St George parish records, Dublin), d 25 Jan 1907 (family tree) m 1 Jul 1862 Alfred George Johnson Esq, son of George Johnson Esq, witnessed by John North and Alfred North (marriage certificate: SP email 5 May 2008; parish records) d 31 Oct 1913 or 31 Oct 1931 (family tree) 'was 97 when he died according to his tombstone in ... Jerome' (family tree), brother of Blucher Johnson, and had issue (family tree, and a list of family members in M5608).  In 1911 he was living at Park View, Castleknock (Thoms: EN email 3 Apr 2008)

8a Edith North Johnson, b 17 Mar 1865, d 14 Nov 1938 (family tree)

8b Helen North Johnson, b 23 Dec 1867, d 24 Feb 1938 unmarried (family tree; memorium)

8c Dudley Johnson, b 20 Sep 1870, d 20 Feb 1911 (memorium), without issue (family tree)

8d infant son Johnson, b 14 May 1872, d 18 May 1872 (list of family)

8e Roger North Johnson, b 12 Dec 1874, d 16 Jan 1875 (list of family)

7e Alfred Roger North, b 22 Sep 1835 from 5 Whitworth Pl (family Bible, St George parish record), died 'without issue' (family tree), m 13 July 1869 at Keppel, Ontario, Canada, Elizabeth Winter b c1846 at Dundas, daughter of James and Ellen Winter (marriage record: SP email 19 Mar 2008).  Alfred is listed in the 1871 Ontario census, and the1901 Ontario census records four possible children (SP email 19 Mar 2008)

8a Emily L North, b 19 Apr 1870 and not heard of after 1901 (SP email 11 Jul 2008)

8b Henry H North, Henry Herbert North, b 25 Nov 1872.  Deed 1903 52 299 is a 'memorial of an indenture of disentailing assurance' dated 31 Jul 1903 between Henry Herbert North of 85 Marlborough Rd, Dublin, and Thomas Tight Mecredy junior of 91 Merrion Sq, Dublin, solicitor - after reciting that under the limitations of the will of Roger North the said Henry Herbert North was tenant and land [?] possessed of the hereditaments thereby granted, and reciting that the said Henry Herbert North was desirous of barring the entail of the said hereditament, Henry Herbert North granted unto Thomas Tight Mercredy Jr all and singular the freehold hereditaments … consisting of part of the town and lands of Kilbride known by the name of Whitewell containing 240 acres in the Barony of Fartullagh and county of Westmeath of or to which Henry Herbert North was seised or entitled at law or in equity for any estate or tail male under or by virtue of the said will or otherwise howsoever, save and excepting such parts of the hereditaments as had been disposed of or parted with or became extinguished, to hold subject to the use of the said Henry Herbert North his heirs and assigns for ever (EN email 8 Jul 2008; CN email 6 Apr 2009).  Deed 1904 9 196 of 5 Dec 1903 records a grant sell and convey by Henry Herbert North, resident in Canada, as beneficial owner, to the Rural District Council of Mullingar of one acre 32 perches, part of Whitewell, referred to in an award dated 23 Mar 1896 of Edmund Murphy esq the arbitrator appointed by the Board of Works as therein aforesaid and as O m 33D¹ on the deposited maps and plans relating to the electoral division of Carrick in Mullingar Union; witnessed by by George Curtin, Wiarton, Ontario, Canada, carpenter, and David Miller, Wiarton, farmer (EN email 8 Jul 2008; CN email 6 Apr 2009).  These two deeds seem to follow the death of the senior brother, 7a John North d 1902, and Whitewell has passed to Henry H North, as the senior male in the male line of descent.  The 1904 deed looks as if it was in settlement of a dispute with the Council, but it looks as if some, at least, of Whitewell continued to be held by Henry Herbert North's solicitor for Henry's use.  A record of a final disposal of Whitewell has not yet been found

8c Alfred W North, Alfred Winter North, b 17 May 1874 (SP email 11 Jul 2008), d 29 Dec 1933, m Hannah Dance and had issue (SP email 10 Jul 2008)

9a Alfred Clement North, b 22 Sep 1905 (Ancestry Canadian records: SP email 10 Jul 2008)

8d Ellen North, b 15 Jul 1876 and not heard of after 1901 (SP email 11 Jul 2008)

7f David North, b 5 Oct 1837, baptised 3 Nov 1837 from 5 Whitworth Pl (St George parish records, Dublin), 'dead' (family Bible), d 26 Nov 1852, aged 15, at Castle Avenue, Clontarf (Longford Journal), no issue (family tree).  Dublin directories record a Mr North at 1 Castle Ave from 1850 to 1853 (EN email 8 Feb 2010)

7g William Henry North or Henry William North, b 29 Dec 1839 (family Bible), b 29 Sep 1839, baptised 17 Jan 1840 from 4 Drumcondra Hill (St George parish records, Dublin) d 19 May 1862 without issue (family tree)

7h Charlotte Eleanor North or Charlotte Elinor North, b 28 Nov 1841 (family Bible; St George parish records), 'died' (family tree) living at 16 Upper Rutland St m 23 May 1865 (family Bible and marriage certificate; St George parish records) Thomas Goodeville or Thomas Goodwillie Esq of 15 Grenville St, son of Arthur Goodwillie, merchant (Thomas is recorded as 'dead' in the family tree, though he appears to have been a contributor to the tree according to the annotations) and had issue (family tree). John North (presumably her brother John North of Donneybrook as her father was dead) was a witness.  In 1911 Thoms directory Mrs C E Goodwillie was living at Grosvenor Square, Rathmines (EN email 3 Apr 2008).  There is no C E Goodwillie in the 1911 Dublin census so possibly she died that year

8a Henry Goodwillie, b c1867, m Ada (maiden name not known) b c1870 and had issue (the 1911 Dublin census records Henry (44), Ada (41) and Harold (11) living at Temple Gardens, Rathmines)

9a Harold, b c1900 (1911 Dublin census)

8b Kathleen Goodwillie, m unknown and had issue (family tree)

9a Robert

8c Florence Goodwillie, m unknown and had issue (family tree)

9a Reginald

9b Charles

9c Rowley

9d Arthur

8d Olive Goodwillie, died without issue (family tree)

8e Percy Goodwillie, died without issue (family tree)

7i Emily Marianne North, or Marrianne Emily North or Mariana Emily North, b 24 May 1845 (family Bible; St George parish records), 'dead' (family Bible & family tree), m 18 Nov 1868 Richard Gibbs MD son of John Gibbs Esq (SP7) of Kinnitty (near Birr) Offaly, a widower

6b David North b c1787 (23.7) or c1794 (SP6) d 22 Mar 1863 (his will: 23.7.1) at Farview, also known as Fairview (23.7.1), aged 69 (from gravestone at Dunboden: SP6), Captain in the Navy (23.7) (confirmed in David Bomford North's Trinity record below, though not found in Navy lists in Belfast Library: EN email 7 Dec 2009), m 1816 (ML) Catherine Pim, b c1787 (23.7), d 10 Aug 1869 at Farview aged 82 (SP6), daughter of Robert Pim and Elizabeth Palmer (SP6) of Banaughra (or Bannarighara or Banaughara or Banaughera), Queens Co (deed 1844 11 235; also his will, which names children Robert Pim, Joseph Pim, John Pim, Catherine Pim, Sarah Pim, Mary Pim and Alice Goodbody: EN email 15 Mar 2009), and had issue (23.7.3).  23.7 says David was a retired Navy Captain, probably by the time he married: that and the date of birth of his wife (c1787) point to him being born c1787 rather than c1794, so he was c29 rather than c22 when he married.  Deed 705 542/3 483478 of 1816-1818 (in deed 857 281 572281 referred to as 'Articles of 22 Aug 1816'), is a marriage settlement for David North and Catherine Pim (extract below), and deed 857 281 572281 of 30 Mar 1830 is a variation of it.  David left a will (23.7.1) dated 16 Nov 1860 in which he all but disinherited, to the extent that he was able given existing entails on some his lands, his first born son, Isaac, leaving him one shilling.  On 17 May 1821 David bought from Richard Molesworth Reynell some 61 acres plantation measure of 'lands of the west' (not named) next to Oldtown and Castlelost.  That arrangement was renewed on 8 Oct 1842, and on 6 Aug 1845 the land was settled on his second son, John Roger North (all in deed 1845 13 39).  Deed 769 240 521575 of 9 Feb 1822 refers to David North, Catherine Pim his wife, and John Pim and Anthony Cooper the trustees of their marriage settlement, regarding  cash advances made to David North from Catherine Pim's entitlements under the marriage settlement of 2 Aug 1816 to enable David North to build a house on Oldtown, and to transfer the security held there fore from the lands of Banaughera (which was owned by John Pim) to the lands of Tinekelly and Clonfree (leased by David North), and, as David North had been unable to secure renewal of the leases to those properties, further transfer the security to Oldtown, 61 acres, part of the lands of the West for which David North had a lease renewable in perpetuity; and the release of the trustees from any liability there fore.  Deed 1842 3 94 between David North of Fairview, and John Wilkinson of Monasterevan, Co Kildare, is a deed of lease of 61 acres at Fairview (EN email 1 Feb 2009).  Not clear whether this might be the same 61 acres as the 61 acres known as Oldtown in the preceeding lease.  Catherine inherited £400 from her parents (deed 1844 11 235 of 11 July 1844: EN email 1 Feb 2009).  Deed 1848 13 144 of 24 Mar 1848 records that David North of Russell Place, Dublin, sold to John Burke of Upr Bridge St, Dublin, grocer and spirit merchant, lands of Clonfree, Parish of Loughkeen or Lougheen, Barony of Lr Ormonde, Co Tipperary, then in the possession and occupation  of Catherine Burke or her undertenants containing 83 ac 1 rd 5pch, on the same terms as the land was held under a lease of  23 Feb 1791 from Henry Hempson of the city of Dublin esquire to Roger North of Birr in the King’s county, gentleman (CN email 1 Mar 2009; EN email 1 Feb 2009).  David inherited Clonfree, along with Upper and Lower Tinnikelly, from his Uncle Roger.   He inherited Tyrrellstown from his uncle Isaac Bomford.  In 1851 Tyrrellstown was transferred by David North and his son Isaac, 'according to their respective estates and interests',  to John Roger North in trust (deed 1851 24 17; 23.7.2): the deed was witnessed by two solicitors and may be a transaction brought on by Isaac's financial problems.  Tyrrellstown was entailed, so neither David nor Isaac could deal with it in their own right.  David North is listed in Dublin directories at 11 Mecklenburg St from 1844 to 1846; deed 1845 13 39 describes him as of Russell Place; from 1846 to 1851 Dublin directories also list David North at 4 Russell Place (EN email 8 Feb 2010); his son, John Roger Pim North also was of 11 Mecklenburg St in 1845.  Information below on David's descendents is from 23.7.3 unless noted otherwise

7a  Isaac Bomford North, b c1818 (or possibly 1828), d 17 May 1886 at Rutherglen, Victoria, Australia, m 3 Apr 1861 in Rutherglen (23.7.3) [or m 1857 (SP6)] Sarah Sexton and had issue.  Isaac got into financial difficulties in 1851 (23.7.1), from which he was rescued, at considerable expense, by his father.  An Isaac North was at 36 Amiens St from 1848 to 1851 (Dublin directories: EN email 8 Feb 2010).  His father's will (23.7.1) of 16 Nov 1860 disinherited Isaac to the extent that he could be disinherited, but it appers that Isaac still inherited a number of properties that were entailed to the male line, including Tyrrellstown.  Isaac moved to Rutherglen, perhaps in 1852 though he appears to have been in Ireland in 1854 when he resigned as co-trustee (with Robert Mulock) from three North and Emerson trusts and was replaced by John Emerson (deed 1854 15 260).  By deed 1878 38 32 dated 24 Jun 1878, Isaac Bomford North of Rutherglen took out a £350 mortgage at 5% pa with the Royal Bank of Ireland over his life interests in Tyrrellstown, 214 ac 2 rd 16 pch (CN email 18 Jul 2009)

8a  Isaac Bomford North, b 22 Jun 1861 at Hibernian Lead, Rutherglen, Victoria and later moved to Sydney, m 1882 Mary Masterfield.  In 1887, Isaac [must be the son, as his father died in 1886], still of Victoria, granted 214 acres at Tyrrellstown, Moyleskey, Fartullagh and anything else, to Sweeney, solicitor, Dublin (deed 1887 33 62: SP email 9 Dec 2007), presumably so Sweeny could deal in the land as Isaac's trustee.  On 20 Dec 1893 (deed 1893 30 106: EN email 8 Dec 2007; CN email 18 Jul 2009) Isaac, then of Ultimo, Sydney, NSW, gentleman, conveyed Tyrrellstown, 208 ac 2 rd 26 pch (detailed in a schedule), 'to which he was entitled to under the will of his late grandfather David North', to Henry and Frances Cherry Willis as security for a loan of £70.  By deed 1897 56 211 of 2 Apr 1896, Isaac Bomford North, contractor of Sydney, NSW, sold to Alfred Henry Collier also of Sydney, a £700 mortgage over Tyrrellstown 208 acres held by Henry Willis under an indenture dated 15 Oct 1894, for £538 (CN email 20 Jul 2009).  The deed includes a schedule which lists the various holding within Tyrrellstown - farmlands, house and office all leased to Rob McCall and house on 3 acres leased to William Henry Cole.  The schedule differs in detail from that included with an earlier deed, 1893 30 106.  That appears to be the end the family's ownership of Tyrrellstown, which had been in Bomford/North hands since 1724 (4.1)

8b David North, b 1862

8c William Whyte North, b Rutherglen 1863, and d Rutherglen 1908

8d Joseph Patrick North, b 1866

8e John North, b 1868, m Jane Irwin, remained in Rutherglen, and had two children

9a Isaac Bomford North

9b Sir Thomas Lindsay North, b 11 Dec 1919, m 1943 Kathleen Jefferis and had issue, two daughters, each of whom had children

8f Susan Alice North, b 1871

8g Rebecca Agnes North, b 1873 (SP6) at Rutherglen, m 3 Apr 1899 Sydney Charles Williams, 23, capenter, b Ballarat

8h Elizabeth North, b 1875

7b  John Roger North or John Roger Pim North, b c1818, d 10 Dec 1871 in Dublin aged 53, of 38 Lower Leeson St, m 7 Aug 1845, when of 4 Russell Place, in St Kevins Church, Parish of St Peter, City Dublin (St Peter parish records), or 13 May 1846 in Parish Church, Parish St George, Co Dublin (St George parish records) (marriage certificates (plural), SP email 30 Aug 2007), Elizabeth Emerson of 8 Charlemont Mall, under age, born c1825 (SP6), outlived her husband, and had issue.  He was Secretary to the Royal Bank of Ireland (in his daughter Constance's 1857 baptism record, he was a cashier at the Royal Bank).  Elizabeth Emerson was a daughter of Horatio Emerson (23.2.1) and Emily Mulock (15.1.2); Emily's mother was Emily Frances Wetherall  (15.1.2) (possibly Wetherelt or Wetherell).  She is referred to in relation to his will, in the National Archives, Dublin, as Elizabeth Wetherall North (also spelt Wetherelt (EN email 3 Apr 2008)), widow and one of the executors (EN email 15 Mar 2008).  There is a record of Elizabeth Wetherelt North dying in Devon, England, b c1825, d 1885 (SP email 19 Apr 2008).  Deed 1845 13 39 of 6 Aug 1845 is their marriage settlement.  John Roger is of Great Charles St, Dublin.  Elizabeth is described as Elizabeth Emerson of Charlemont Mall, spinster, daughter of Emily Emerson and Horatio Emerson late of Dublin esq deceased.  Trustees are Robert Mulock of Charlemont St Dublin and Isaac Bomford North of Russell Place Dublin.  Others mentioned include Emily Emerson of Charlemont Mall (Elizabeth's mother), John Emerson of Charlemont Mall, only son of Horatio and Emily Emerson and the brother of Elizabeth Emerson, David North of Russell Place, Dublin (John Roger's father), and Catherine North wife of said David North.  Dublin directories list John North at 6 Great Charles St in 1846 and 1847 (EN email 8 Feb 2010).  Deed 1846 10 121 of 8 May 1845 is a conveyance between John Roger Pim North of 11 Mecklenburg St, Dublin, and Wm Slattery of 44 Lr Ormonde Quay, Dublin.  By her will of 11 Oct 1840, Elizabeth Pim, widow [i.e. Elizabeth Palmer, John Roger's grandmother], bequeathed to her grandson 11 Mecklenburg St, otherwise St Martins Lane; now for an undisclosed consideration John Roger Pim North conveys the premises to William Slattery with a covenent for renewal forever (EN email 1 Feb 2009; CN email 2 Apr 2010).  Deed 1848 5 17 of 28 Feb 1848 is a deed poll (i.e. a declaration by a single party) by John Roger Pim North of Great Charles St, Dublin.  It recites that by an indenture dated 11 Jul 1845 Thomas Spunner Palmer, MD, of Lr Gardner St, Dublin, in consideration of £730 paid to him by John Roger Pim North made over to John Roger Pim North an annuity of £349/3/9 and a principal sum of £2,750 until the £730 was repaid with interest.  The £730 having been repaid, John Roger Pim North releases Thomas Spunner Palmer from all claims (EN email 1 Feb 2009; CN email 9 Apr 2010).  The deed was witnessed by John Emerson, solicitor, of 17 Merchants Quay.  Deed 1853 26 28 of 16 Aug 1853 concerns John Roger North of Clarinde Ave, Dublin and Wm Moyess of Fortfield, Co Dublin, re a plot of land at Carrig Ave, Parish Monkstown, yearly rent £4 (EN Email 16 Oct 2008).  Deed 1854 8 123 of 7 Oct 1853: John Roger North of Corrig Ave, Kingstown, Dublin, 1st part; Emily Emerson of the same place, other part - Roger North demised to Emily Emerson a plot of land east side Corrig Ave; witnesses John Emerson, Elizabeth North (EN Email 16 Oct 2008).  Corrig Ave and Carrig Ave are the same place, at Kingstown, Parish of Monkstown (EN email 12 Apr 2009).  This looks like John Roger demising a house, or at least some land for a house, to his mother in law, Emily Emerson.  John Roger North and Elizabeth Emerson are mentioned in deed 1854 15 260 along with other members of their families

8a  Colonel David North, of Fairview House or Farview House, Rochfortbridge (deed 1905 12 87), and of the Royal Artillery, b c1846 (SP6), d 1915 at Cheltenham, Gloucestershire (SP email 28 Nov 2007), m 2 Dec 1886 at Halifax, Nova Scotia, Mrs Margaret Richey Jack b 18 Apr 1855, d 19 Mar 1944, and had issue.  The 1901 Irish census records the family aged 54, 45 and 10 living at Castlelost, Tyrrellspass.  The Calendar of Wills in the National Archives records in 1916 David North, Fairview, Hatherley Rd, Cheltenham, Lt Col RA rtd, d 17 Dec 1915, [probate granted] to Margaret North, widow, effects in Ireland £371 (EN email 15 Jul 2009).  By deed 1896 35 83 of 13 May 1896, David was granted a loan of £75 under the Landed Property Improvement (Ireland) Act 1847 for execution of approved improvements to land at Castlelost West, Fairview (CN emails 20 Jul & 8 Sep 2009).  In 1905 (deed 1905 12 87: SP email 9 Dec 2007; EN email 15 Jul 2009) he, with David North Trotter of Summerhill, Enfield, executed an indenture of disentail over several parcels of land including 61 acres plantation in Fartullagh, Co Westmeath, reciting the 6 Aug 1845 marriage settlement of his parents John Roger North and Elizabeth Emerson (deed 1845 13 39) and reciting the deaths of David North the elder [this David's grandfather], Catherine North [grandmother], John Roger North [father], Elizabeth Emerson [mother] and Emily Emerson [maternal grandmother] [people entitled to the land under the marriage settlement before the entail took over], and conveyed the disentailed land to [his cousin, below] David North Trotter, but 'to the use of the sd David North the younger [i.e. Col David North] his heirs and assigns forever'.  It is not clear that David North Trotter got the land under this agreement, because in 1906 (deed 1906 49 288: EN email 8 Dec 2007) Col David North sold 61 ac 1 rd 5 pch plantation in Fartullagh, Co Westmeath, to Patrick Gavin for £815 under the 1903 Land Act: the un-named parcel of land from the 1845 marriage settlement.  Patrick's son, Mitch Gavin, owned Whitewell  House in 2006 (SP email 11 Jul 2008 - see also deed 1859 37 180).  In the 1911 UK census they were living at Farview, Hathersley Road, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire in a 10 roomed house with two servants (SP emails 22 Jan 2009).  The will of Margaret Sarah Louisa North, of Rainors(?) St Georges Rd, Cheltenham, Gloucester, widow, formerly of Marryott, Holmeadsale Road, South Nutfield, Redhill, Surrey, records 'my grandchildren' Constance Jack, Cyril Jack, Moya Jack and Margaret Matheson.  The will states 'property in Canada which I own if my brother shall predecease me ... I give to my son Ernest Lenox Richey Jack'.  The will was dated 19 Feb 1940 and indicates Margaret Sarah Louisa North died on 19 Mar 1944.  Probate was dated 10 Jun 1944 (EN email 27 Nov 2007).  On the basis of the census and that will, her children (Ernest Lenox Richey Jack is assumed to be from her first marriage) were:

9a Ernest Lenox Richey Jack, who had issue

10a Constance Jack

10b Cyril Jack

10c Moya Jack

9b Margaret Moya North, b 24 Jun 1890 at Farview or at Clonfadforan (1911 UK census), Co Westmeath, baptised 20 Jul 1890 at Tyrrellspass Church (Parish of Clonfad Foran records, COI library, Churchtown: EN email 29 Mar 2009), m Mr Matheson after 1911 and had issue

10a Margaret Matheson

8b  Emily North or Emily Emerson North, d 1889 (SP6) (possibly in South Africa?  There is no death record for her in England: SP emails 30 Apr & 20 Jul 2010), m in Bellary, India, on 28 Jun 1882 Courtney Heathcote Stisted, Capt RE Scotts, 13th (Somersetshire) Light Infantry, became Lt Col Stisted, b 9 May 1860 at Ankala, India, d 26 Sep 1922 in Hampshire, son of Lt Col Thomas H Stisted 7th Hussars & Camilla Stacey both of Maidstone, Kent (SP email 30 Apr 2010; Raymond Krepp email 19 Jul 2010).  Courtney Stisted married again after Emily died, on 6 Oct 1891 in London to Edith Harvey Cockburn (SP email 30 Apr 2010)

9a Charles Heathcote Stisted, b 1 Aug 1883 Bengal, India, probably died India (Raymond Krepp email 19 Jul 2010)

9b Caroline F H Stisted b 1885 in England m 1908 in St Georges, Hanover Square, London, Captain Edmund Walster Alderson, b 1878.  Caroline & Capt Edmund Alderson arrived in Albany, Western Australia, with their 6 children on the Suevic in 1926.  [http://naa12.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=30241498 may point to the relevant paper record (Incoming passenger list to Albany "Suevic" arrived 24 March 1926); content not yet available online.]  Carloline's descendents live in Perth, Western Australia (Raymond Krepp email 19 Jul 2010)

9c Martha H Stisted or Mary Stisted, b 1887 in London (SP6), alive 1917, nurse WW1 1918  (Raymond Krepp email 19 Jul 2010)

8c Kathleen North or Katherine North or Katherine Emerson North, b 1853 (SP6), m in England 18 Jan 1876 (SP6) William Alexander Gardiner, b Sep 1836 (obituary: SP email 14 Mar 2008), A M Staff, son of Alexander Stoker Gardiner and Augusta Maud Barber, and brother of Frederick Augustus Gardiner (below)

8d  Elizabeth Constance North b 16 Jun 1857, baptised 27 Sep 1857 from 7 Garville Ave (Rathmines parish records, Dublin), m in Devon, England in 1885 Frank Anderson or Francis Anderson, b 1850 (SP6), Indian Civil Servant

7c  David Bomford North MD, surgeon, b c1820, d 8 Apr 1873 aged 52 or 53, at Moyally, Offaly (Moyally is a farm about 4.5 miles west of the village of Horseleap on the Westmeath boundary; at least half of the farm is now motorway, roundabouts, exits etc which have eaten up the meadows and pastures, old trees and hedgerows and a historic 'roadway'; the Norths sold Moyally in 1981: EN email 4 Jun 2008; CN emails 8 Feb 2010.  See Moyally House in the National Inventory of Architectural Heritage.  1951 photo at right).  He left a will (EN email 3 Apr 2008) with an estate under £3,000, executor Joseph Pim North.  He went to Trinity: North, David Bomford, Pen. (P.T.), Nov 5, 1838, aged 18; s. of David, navarchus, b Co Westmeath, B.A. Vern 1851, M.B. EAst 1853 (EN email 7 Dec 2009). Thoms 1869 directory lists David  B North, Med Practioner, Milltown, Westmeath.  On 17 May 1870, Rev. R. Dowse, Rector, in the Chair, the following resolution was proposed by John R Somers and seconded by Doctor North and unanimously carried: "That we the parishioners of Clonfadforan Parish in Vestry assembled, desire not only to censure a certain pamphlet entitled Short Prayers but also to express our unqualified disapproval of the use of [sauce/source??] and our condemnation of the conduct of his Grace the Archbishop of Dublin with reference thereto.  We also deem it absolutely necessary for the future welfare of our Church of Ireland that all who hold unscriptural doctrines as the Archbishop of Dublin should hencefort cease to have a voice in the convention of our Church." D B North donated £25 to the Parish in 1870 (Parish of Clonfad Foran records, COI library, Churchtown: EN email 29 Mar 2009)

7d  Joseph Pim North, b c1824, d 2 Oct 1890 at Moyally, Co Offaly aged 66, from syncope (CN email 5 Apr 2008), buried 4 Oct 1890, aged 66 (Parish of Newtownfartullagh records, COI library, Churchtown, EN email 29 Mar 2009) at Newtownlow (CN email 17 Apr 2009), m (Taney parish records) 20 Mar 1867, when a Captain, 3rd Hussars, at Taney Road Church (known locally as Taney Church, in the town of Dundrum, which is now on the edge of the city of Dublin), Jeanette Gertrude Somers, b 5 Sep 1844, d 7 Apr 1882 at Tullamore, Moyally, Co Offaly aged 38 (death certificate: CN email 3 Apr 2008), daughter of John Richard Somers (d autumn 1894 (CN email 3 Mar 2009); buried 8 Oct 1894 aged 82 (Parish of Newtownfartullagh records, COI library, Churchtown: EN email 29 Mar 2009)) and Maria Jane Handy (SP6) and sister of Alice Somers who married Horatio North-Bomford (27.9), and had issue. In Aughrim C of I churchyard there is a headstone which reads 'Sacred to the memory of Maria Jane wife of Horatio N Wallace Esq JP of Sandy Cove, Kingstown, Co Dublin, and third daughter of the late Samuel Wesley Handy Esq of Bracca Castle [Brackagh Castle], Co Westmeath, who departed this life on the 21 Day of November 1864, aged 76 years. Erected by her husband' (EN email 4 Jun 2008).  That Maria Jane Handy (m Wallace) was the aunt of the Maria Jane Handy m John Richard Somers (CN email 3 Mar 2009). H G Hart's Army List for 1862 says Joseph Pim North was of the 3rd Kings own Regiment of Hussars, had 10 years service on full pay, Cornet Oct 1852, Lieutenant Feb 1855, Adjutant Nov 1855 and Hon Captain Feb 1861 (EN email 17 May 2008; 14 Mar 2010).  They lived at Ashmount House, before they purchased Moyally (EN email 23 Jun 2009).  Deed 1867 10 12 is their marriage settlement.  It conveys land of Ballinderry Big, Barony of Moycashel, Westmeath, from John Richard Somers to Samuel Handy Somers and David Bomford North in trust.  It recites two deeds of 10 Dec 1853 by which John Richard Somers bought two parcels of Ballinderry Big (one of ~407 acres, the other of ~56 acres) from the Commissioners for the sale of Incumbered Estates.  The land was subsequently mortgaged: deed 1905 79 24 recites a 'mortgage dated 22^nd June 1866 and made between John Richard Somers of the one part and Thomas Arthur and William John Slade Foster on the other part for receiving the sum of £3,000 and interest and subject to the proviso for the redemption'; and the deed itself concerns a mortgage of 7 ninths of the properties for £700 by 6 of the 7 then living children in 1905.  Deed 1870 11 270 of 25 Mar 1870 concerns a reconveyance of a mortgage dated 12 Jul 1867 in the sum of £5,000 by John Malone of Baronstown, Westmeath (for whom it looks as if William Gibson was a trustee in whom the lands were vested), naming a long list of lands in Westmeath [none familiar - 'the Baronstown Estate'], from Joseph Pim North (£4,000) and Flora Harriett Sadlier (£1000), wife of Rev Francis Ralph Sadlier, 11 Radnor[?] Place, Hyde Park, London to Thomas Tighe Mecredy, solicitor of Dublin.  This feels like it was a purely financial investment where Joseph Pim parked £4,000 for three years (EN email 21 Nov 2007; CN emails 14 & 16 Oct 2009).  Deed 1869 24 218 records an assignment of lease on 7 Jul 1869 by Joseph Pim North to Richard Thomas Welch, Monkstown Park, Monkstown, Dublin, of a lease for 900 years of lands of Kilmore called Larch Hill in the Barony of Coolock, Co Dublin, 17 acres statute measure plus dwelling and coachhouse, that Joseph Pim North had leased from James Her on 11 Jun 1867 for £100 (EN email 21 Nov 2007; CN email 8 Apr 2009).  In deed 1870 Book 37 No 155 Roger North of Tyrrellspass transfers his rent (£95 pa under a lease of 25 Apr 1865 [? should 25 Apr 1865 be 25 Apr 1805, i.e. deed 582 258 393193?]) from part of the lands of Kilbride known as East Division, and all his estate and interest whatsoever in Kilbride and Tonlegee, Barony of Fartullagh, Westmeath, to Joseph Pim North and David Bomford North, MD, 'out of natural love and affection' and in return for an annuity of £87.13.10 payable for the remainder of his life (EN email 21 Nov 2007).  Deed 1875 54 299 brings together two interests in the East Division of Kilbride (91 acres, 3 roods, 3 perches) - those of Joseph North and Joseph Pim North (lessors), and those of Mary Elizabeth North and William Pilkington (lessees) - placing the land into William Pilkington's hands subject to payment of fee farm rent to Joseph Pim North (EN email 21 Nov 2007; CN email 17 Feb 2009).  Landowners of Ireland 1876 records that Joseph Pim North of Moyally owned 463 acres in Westmeath and 235 acres in Kings Co. Deed 1886 30 146 records a sale of 334 acres of lands (named) in Moycashel, Co Westmeath, from John Richard Somers of Dublin to Samuel Handy Somers of Tyrrellspass House for £3,840.  The Irish Land Commission was involved, as was Joseph Pim North as a trustee (SP email 9 Dec 2007).  Deed 1902 33 127 is a memorial of a deed poll by David Trotter MD of Summerhill Co Meath and David North of Fairview, Lt Col in Her Majesty's Army, surviving executors of the will of Joseph Pim North, making legal arrangements for the future management of Moyally and Tober on the one hand, the the 'rest, residue and remainder' of the estate on the other.  Unfortunately, the memorial does not tell us what the arrangements were, but Moyally ended up with the son Joseph Roger North, so presumably Tober did too.  The remainder seems to have been split equally between the children (as evidenced by the shares in Ballinderry Big)

8a David John North, b 1 Feb 1868 at Larchill, Coolock, Co Dublin, d aged 9 on 7 Jul 1877 at Moyally, Co Offaly

8b Maria Catherine North or Maria Katherine North or Mary Catherine North, known as May (CN email 3 Mar 2009), b 27 Jun 1869 at Larchill, Coolock, Co Dublin (birth cert: SP email 6 Sep 2007), d 12 Oct 1926 at Moyally (SP6), buried 14 Oct 1926 aged 57 (Parish of Newtownfartullagh records, COI library, Churchtown: EN email 29 Mar 2009).  Named in deed  1905 79 24.  Maria received a letter dated 16 Mar (no year, perhaps 1896) from her grandmother, Maria Jane Somers, which she was asked to burn after reading (CN email 6 Feb 2010)

8c Joseph Roger North, b 16 Jun 1870 (SP6), d 2 Jun1945 (CN email 15 Mar 2008) at Moyally, buried 4 Jun 1945 (Parish of Newtownfartullagh records, COI library, Churchtown: EN email 29 Mar 2009), m 5 Oct 1900 Rose Byrne b 1876, d 1944, and had issue (SP email 2 May 2008).  Named in deed  1905 79 24.  Made it clear he did not want to farm Moyally (CN email 21 Apr 2009), but inherited it anyway.  At one stage around 1896 he thought of emigrating to Canada, but the family thought he wasn't strong enough for the work, they didn't have the cash for the voyage, and that it would be better that he stay in Ireland to look after his sisters at Moyally (CN email 7 Feb 2010)

9a Richard North

9b Joseph North

9c David North

9d Elizabeth North

9e Mary North

9f John North, inherited Tober, also known as Tubber, also known as the Geraghty estate (CN email 24 Apr 2009)

8d Jeanette Gertrude North, b 20 Nov 1871 (SP email?), d 1898 in an asylum for the mentally insane (CN email 5 Apr 2008), buried 13 Sep 1898 aged 26 (Parish of Newtownfartullagh records, COI library, Churchtown: EN email 29 Mar 2009)

8e Eleanor Louise North, known as Nellie, b 10 Sep 1873, d 5 Aug 1951 at Montreal, Canada (SP6), m c1899 in Dublin Charles Ernest de Belle, a recognised artist and graduate of the Ecole des beaux arts in Paris, b 17 May 1873, d 3 Sep 1939 at Montreal (SP6), and had issue.  After the marriage they moved to London, where Emily joined them as nanny to their children.  The family was supposed to emigrate to Canada on the Titanic but delayed their departure because their eldest son caught scarlet fever.  They sailed to Quebec in May 1912, and appear to have been estranged from Nellie's family from that time.  De Belle descendents in Montreal have a record of Nellie and Charles hiring lawyers in relation to her inheritance (CN emails 21 & 23 Mar 2009)

8f Emily Caroline North, b 1874, d 1 Nov 1943 in Dublin, buried 3 Nov 1943 (Parish of Newtownfartullagh records, COI library, Churchtown: EN email 29 Mar 2009).  Named in deed  1905 79 24

8g Richard Somers North, b 1875, d 1908 at Moyally.  The Calendar of Wills in the National Archive records for 1911 Richard Somers North, Moyally, farmer d 19 Feb 1908, [probate] to Joseph R North [his brother, above] farmer, [estate valued at] £85 (EN email 15 Jul 2009).  A Richard North aged 33 was buried on 21 Feb 1907 (Parish of Newtownfartullagh records, COI library, Churchtown: EN email 29 Mar 2009): this is almost certainly the same Richard, so one of the dates is a year out.  Named in deed  1905 79 24

8h Elizabeth North, b 1877, also known as Lily North (CN email 17 Apr 2009).  Lily North of Moyally was buried on 1 Dec 1896, aged 19 (Parish of Newtownfartullagh records, COI library, Churchtown: EN email 29 Mar 2009).  She is not named in deed 1905 79 24

8i Florence Isabel North, b 1878, d 18 Oct 1958 at Swords, Co Dublin (death cert: SP email 6 Sep 2007). Florence was living at Moyally in the 1901 census, but by the 1911 census was no longer there and was probably in an institution for the metally ill in Dublin (CN email 19 Mar 2009).  Named in deed  1905 79 24.  On the internet, in the 1911 census for Dublin, district of Arran Quay, Richmond Women's Asylum, there is a list of all the patients, initials only: "N, FI", aged 30, is Florence, though in April 1911 she would have been 32.  The original return page shows she was born in Co Westmeath, was admitted from Malahide, Co Dublin, suffered from hereditary melancholia and had been resident for 2 years (CN email 12 Oct 2009)

8j Alice Bomford North, b 1879, d 1903 at Moyally, buried 27 Nov 1903 (Parish of Newtownfartullagh records, COI library, Churchtown: EN email 29 Mar 2009)

8k Edith Mabel North, b 1881.  Named in deed  1905 79 24.  Died 1927 (family Bible: EN email 11 Sep 2009)

8l Samuel Handy North, b 1882, d 14 Aug 1882 (CN email 15 Mar 2008) at Moyally, four months after his mother

7e  Elizabeth Catherine North, b c1821, d 15 May 1913 at Summerhill, Co Meath, buried at Agher, m c1854 (ML) David Trotter MD, b c1826, d 2 Oct 1914 at Tipper House, Naas, Co Kildare and had issue (23.7.3)

8a premature son born & died on 30 Jun 1855, at Forkhill

8b David North Trotter, b 24 May 1856 at Forkhill, d 16 Mar 1912 [or 17 Mar 1912 (SP6)]. Never married, buried at Agher. Cricketer.  Described in deed 1905 12 87 as 'of Summerhill, Enfield, Co Meath'.  That deed unentailed and conveyed to David a number of properties, totalling 61 acres plantation, which had been subject to the marriage settlement of David's uncle and aunt, John Roger North and Elizabeth Emerson, plus Clonkeen otherwise Castletown otherwise Swangs of Kellypatrick, 78 acres, formerly held by Elizabeth Mulock, all of which had been in the possession of Col David North of Fairview, David's cousin, 'to the use of the sd David North the younger his heirs and assigns forever'.  While it might look as if David North Trotter is getting the lands, it seems that in fact he was just a conduit and David North was getting the lands for himself and his heirs, free of the entail.  As David North had no natural male children, but had stepson and a daughter, the motive for disentailing the land is fairly clear

8c Kate Maria Trotter [or Kate Marie Trotter (SP6)], b 11 Jan 1858, d 9 Apr 1871, buried at Agher.

8d William John Trotter, RAMC, b 24 Dec 1859, d 7 Nov 1921, buried at Agher. William is noted as the son present on both his parents' death certificates.  He m Flora Jeanette Boyd and had 4 children, two of whom died young. The other two were:

9a Daisy Maria Trotter, b 23 Feb 1896, Sitapur, India

9b David William Trotter, b 30 Jan 1900, Bareilly, India

8e Rev John Theobald Trotter, b c1861, d 16 Apr 1935. Never married. Church of Ireland clergyman, Precentor of Leighlin Cathedral and 40 years Rector of Cloydah & Bilbo, near Carlow. Buried Cloydah

8f Constance Elizabeth Trotter, b 1864, m at Dublin 5 May 1891 Graves Chamney Swan and had issue, including Olive Ina Constance Swan who married Dr Wilfred Alexander Steen in 1914 (Pat Steen email 3 Sep 2008)

7f  Roger Robert North. Deed 1835 Book 19 No 20 records Roger Robert North as the youngest son of David North of Fairview.  A Roger Robert North, b c1828, d 26 May 1888 in Winchester, Hampshire, UK, aged 60, army pensioner and prison warder and had a daughter Mary North (death certificate: SP email 5 May 2008), is probably this Roger Robert North.

8a ? David North.  The Roger Robert North who died in 1888 in Hampshire 'said he was from Ireland and ... had a son David' (SP email 22 Mar 2008)

8b Mary North, of 2 Primrose Cottages, Winchester (present at her father's death)

7g (possibly) William North or William Northe (SP email 17 Jul 2010), b c1821, d 27 Nov 1902 , m 29 Nov 1860 Elizabeth Keogh of Rahanine, Castlelost (SP email 5 Feb 2008), b Apr 1839, d 22 Oct 1918, and had issue (23.7.3).  Possibly this William fits here and is a natural son of David North.  An alternative hypothesis is that William came from Newport, near Limerick, Co Tipperary, was the son of Joseph Hickman North and his wife Jane of Newport, and moved to live with North 'cousins' in Westmeath (not necessarily David North) when his parents died in 1840 and 1849 respectively (SP email 9 Jan 2009, attaching suggestion from Lorcan Mulligan based on Newport parish records).  The hypothesis is supported by the naming of William's children, which reflects the naming of Joseph and Jane's other children as recorded in parish records: James, Mary, Joseph & Elizabeth, and would provide an alternative explanation as to why William is not mentioned in David's will (see also 23.7.3).  There is another deed, 1839 23 86, which records the children (presumably, children then living, so Joseph jnr may have died) of Hickman North of Ballinas, Co Tipperary, and Jane his wife as James, Mary, Eliz^th, Ellen, William, Jane, and Martha.  Joseph Hickman North's children may have all emigrated to London, Ontario, in 1855 (SP email 14 Jan 2009)

8a Anne North, b Oct 1861, d 17 Apr 1943, m in Brisbane, Australia, 27 Apr 1892 William O'Neill and had issue

8b William North, b Dec 1862, m in Brisbane 2 Dec 1896 Kate Kelvin and had no children

8c Mary North, b 19 May 1864, became Sister Veronica at Yass, NSW, Australia

8d Isaac North, b 1 Mar 1866, d 10 Jun 1945, m in Brisbane 27 Sep 1899 Catherine Leahy and had no children

8f Margaret North, b 28 Mar 1868, d 1 May 1959, m in Brisbane 10 Feb 1904 Patrick McGrath and had issue

8g Elizabeth North, b 20 Jun 1870, d 9 Dec 1957, m at Rochfortbridge, Co Westmeath, Patrick Caffrey and had no children

8h Joseph North, b 26 Feb 1872, d 7 Sep 1935, m in New York City 4 Oct 1908 Julia Collins, and had issue

8i Patrick North, b 10 Oct 1874, d 11 Dec 1954, m at Rochfortbridge, Co Westmeath, 27 Jan 1915 Mary Ellen Carty, aged 24, daughter of Laurence Carty and Julia New of Rochfortbridge, Co Westmeath (marriage cert SP email 6 Sep 2007), and had issue (Catherine Holman email 22 Sep 2006).  He is recorded as owner of lands at Gormunly in 1909 45 286 (SP email 9 Dec 2007)

8j Catherine North, b 13 Aug 1876, d May 1961, m at Rochfortbridge 8 Sep 1904 James Mulligan, moved to Rhode, Co Offally, and had issue

8k Jane North, b 25 Jun 1878, d Nov 1962, became Sister Mary Benigna, Sisters of Notre Dame, Tyngsboro, Massachusettes, USA

8l James North, b Jul 1881, d 19 May 1883 at Rochfortbridge, Ireland

6c Isaac North of Ferrans b c1795 (23.7), aged over 20 in 1823 (deed 783 102 529837), d 10 Oct 1866 aged 71 (27.5.2), m 8 Oct 1830 [1829 (ML)] Belinda Emily Pilkington (23.2), d 1852 (27.2) and had issue (27.2.1).  In 1837 he changed his name to Isaac North-Bomford (27.1).  Belinda was the daughter by an earlier marriage of Abraham John Pilkington who subsequently married Mary Elizabeth North of Kilbride

7a  Mary Jane North-Bomford, b c1830 (27.4.1), d c1882 (27.4.3), m 1850 John Emerson (27.4.1), d c1870, and had issue (27.4.4)

8a Horatio Emerson, b 9 May 1851, alive in 1873, may have d before 1885 (27.4.4)

8b Isaac Bomford Emerson, m Minnie Wyley, daughter of the late John Wyley of Leacroft, Isle of Wight, died without issue

8c John Joseph North Emerson, MD and may have had issue

9a  Frances Anne Emerson (alternatively, she may be another daughter of Mary Jane North-Bomford and John Emerson - 27.4.4)

8e Henry Robert Mulock Emerson, b c1854, m Georgina Andrews, daughter of George Andrews of Kilkee, and had issue

9a  Horace Andrews Emerson, perhaps Henry Horace Andrews Emerson

9b  Vivien Emerson.

9c  Eileen Emerson.

9d  Vera Emerson.

8f Charles St Leger Shervington Emerson, b c1855, d Cham, Victoria, Australia, 1934, unmarried.

8g David North-Bomford Emerson, m Emily Constance Martyn, daughter of the late Samuel Martyn of Thurloe Square, London, and had issue

9a  Mary Nellie Emerson, b c Sep 1896

8h Frank Emerson, died young

8i Belinda Bomford Emerson, b Dublin 25 Dec1862, m at Portarlington, Queen’s County, 15 Jun 1887 James Cooper-Cooper who was formerly James Cooper Tuthill, as his second wife. He was born 16th Mar 1825, took the name Cooper and inherited Cooper Hill, Co Limerick, from Mrs Honora Cooper. He had 15 children by his first wife, most of whom were older than Belinda. Belinda at the time of her marriage was aged 25, her husband was 62. They had no children. 

8j Elizabeth Emerson, died young

8k Emily Annabelle Emerson, m Athol Johnstone Dudgeon, son of the late Captain Ralph Dudgeon of the 50th Regiment, and had issue

9a  John Henry Dudgeon

9b Ralph Emerson Dudgeon, known as Athol

9c Mary Dudgeon

8l  Frances de Wetherall Emerson, or Frances Anne Emerson or Frances Wetheral Mulock (?) (27.4.4) 

7b Isaac North-Bomford, b 6 Jun 1834 (27.5), d 6 Apr 1862 (27.5.1), Captain, probably served in China

7c Annabella North-Bomford, b c1836 (27.6), d 16 Jan 1899 (27.6.2), m 12 Apr 1860 Sir Benjamin Whitney, b c1833, d 21 Dec 1916, and had issue (27.6.2)

8a Belinda Whitney b c1862

8b Mabel Rosamond Whitney, bc1865.

7d John North-Bomford of Ferrans, b 17 Jul 1838 (27.7; Chapter 28), d 16 Oct 1905 (28.8), m(1) 24 Jul 1869 Charlotte Maria Devenish-Meares (28.2.1), b c1834 (28.8), d Oct 1881 without issue (28.4); m(2) in Dublin on 5 Sep 1882 Mary Wilhelmina Constance Kaye, dau of William S B Kaye, QC (28.4.1; parish records) and had issue.  In 1882, John was of Ferrans, Co Meath and Mary of 16 Gardiners Place, Dublin.  Mary remarried 16 Dec 1908 Lieutenant-Colonel Phineas Barrett Villiers-Tuthill (28.8).  Deed 68 34 74 of Nov 1868: John North of Leeson St, Dublin, David North, MD, 1st part; Benjamin Whitney of  Upr Fitzwilliam St, Dublin, Solicitor, exec of last will and testament of Isaac North Bomford, late of Ferrans, Co Meath, deceased, 2nd part; and John North Bomford of Ferrans, 3rd part - in consideration of the sum of two? hundred pounds heretofore paid to B Whitney as exec of Isaac North Bomford - receipt acknowledged - said John North and David North by the  --- of Benjamin Whitney testified as therein did grant and make over to said John North Bomford his heirs - all towns and lands of Ferns and Ferrans containing one? hundred and sixty five acres + plantation measure, Barony of Deeds?, Co Meath, and also Gallow containing sixty? acres + ref indenture of Feb 1866 - and interest of John and David North be extinguished - witnessed by Henry Falls, 7 Dominic St, Dublin, Thomas Falls, David North, William Hill, Rochfort Bridge (EN email 17 Feb 2009) (see 28.3.1)

8a John George North-Bomford, b 13 Oct 1883, baptised 13 Oct 1883 (family then at 16 Gardiners Place and Ferus Kilcock [sic - that is what it looks like in the handwriting]: St George parish records, Dublin), d 11 Oct 1965 (28.6.1), m(1) 5 Oct 1909 Hilda Frances Munn d 31 Jan 1960, and had issue; m(2) 4 Feb 1961 Elizabeth (Betty) Susan Armstrong (28.6.1), d 1980 (28.8)

9a David John North-Bomford, b 1912, d 28 Apr 1949 without issue, m 6 Jan 1946 Molly Moore, widow of Capt Clondesley Shovell Malcolm Brereton (28.6.1, 28.8)

7e David George North-Bomford, b 5 Feb 1840 (27.8), d 13 Oct 1869 (27.8.5), m 1867 Mary Gubbins (27.8.1, 27.8.6) and had issue

8a Annabella North-Bomford, b 1868, d c1957 (27.8.9), m 12 Apr 1899 Thomas Griffin (27.8.9) and had issue

9a Dorothy Griffin, d early 1990s, m Hal Tweedy (27.8.9) and had a daughter

10a Molly Porter (?) (27.8.9)

7f Stephen Robert North-Bomford, b c 1843, ‘died young’ in 1856 (27.2.1)

7g Louisa Emily North-Bomford, b c 1845, ‘died young’ (27.2.1)

7h Horatio North-Bomford, b 16 Feb 1847 (27.9), d c1935 (27.9.4), m c1877 (1911 Census: married for 34 years) Alice Louisa Emily Somers or Alice Louisa Emily Summers (27.9.3) b c1858 in Westmeath (aged 53 in 1911 Census, Westmeath: SP email 16 Feb 2008) and had issue.  In 1900 Alice dealt with property in Grafton St, Dublin (1900 29 113: EN email 11 Jul 2008). The 1911 census describes Horatio as 'ex Captain'.  They lived at Tyrellpass House, now (2008) the Village Inn (EN email 15 Jul 2008).  An Alice North Bomford of Tyrrellspass House was buried on 12 Apr 1924 (Parish of Newtownfartullagh records, COI library, Churchtown: EN email 29 Mar 2009)

8a Ethel A J North-Bomford(?) (27.9.4)

8b Norah North-Bomford, b c1885 in Dublin (aged 26 in 1911 Census, Westmeath: SP email 16 Feb 2008)

8c Isaac John North-Bomford (27.9.5), b 14 Apr 1882, d 2 Sep 1968 unmarried, clergyman in Galway, retired 1960 (27.9.5)

7i Belinda Emily North-Bomford, b c1849 (27.10), m 1878 Lieutenant-Colonel Edward Napoleon L’Estrange, d 26 Jun 1890, as his second wife and had a son.  He already had six children

8a Edward Bomford L'Estrange, b Mar 1883, d 26 Jun 1951, m Hilaire Frances Elizabeth de Courcy-Wheeler, b 5 Dec 1886, d 7 Oct 1958 without issue (27.10.2) 

6d Marianne North, b c1789, d 19 May 1867 at 11 Mount St, South Dublin aged 78, widow of a clergyman (death certificate: SP email 12 May 2009; the Irish Death Notice Index lists 'GREGORY, Marianne ( ); ; Kilmore MEA IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1867-5-24 [24 May 1867 - date published]; dja' (SP email 18 Nov 2009)), m 19 Feb 1819 (SP5) Rev Dr C Tighe Gregory (or Tigue Gregory) AM of North Priory, Co Donegal, b c1792, d 14 Nov 1858 aged 66, buried in Kilmore church yard (Longford Journal) and had issue.  Marianne North & Rev E T Gregory, marriage bond, 1819, Meath (CPR 1922 WW43).  The record of a Meath marriage bond in the National Archive (EN email 19 Apr 2008) records the husband as Edw T Gregory, so perhaps he was Rev Edward Tighe Gregory.  The name Edward Tighe Gregory appears in Griffiths (SP email 9 Jul 2008).  Trinity records include: Edward Tighe Gregory PEN. Mr. White November 6, 1809 aged 16; s. of Francis, Progmaticus (N.F.P.) BA Vern 1816, MA Vern 1819, LLB & LLD Vern 1825 (SP email 24 Jul 2008). "The Rev Dr Tithe Gregory, Rector of Kilmore, County Meath, endeavoured to make the labouring poor of his parish spend a happy Christmas, in having an OX killed at his own expense! and cut up in five pound pieces, which were distributed on Christmas Eve (Saturday) to 55 families, consisting of 176 people. The previous (Friday!!) he entertained all the respectable farmers of his parish, of all religious denominations (Roman Catholics inclusive) at dinner, and gave them a haunch of venison (neither fish nor soup maigre for the fasters) and they drank the health of the Marquess of Anglesey--and a long vice-royalty in a bumper" (The Ballyshannon Herald, and Donegal Advertiser, printed 6 January 1832, transcribed by & © Alison Kilpatrick).  See also Lewis' Topographical Dictionary 1837: http://www.from-ireland.net/meath/lewis/kilmore.htm: "Here is a school for all denominations, superintended and entirely supported by the rector, Dr Tighe Gregory, and containing about 30 children.  A dispensary, Dorcas institution, repository, and poor shop, have been founded by Dr Gregory, who intends to erect dwellings for destitute widows and orphans."  In 1839 he was appointed one of the two personal chaplins to the Lord Lieut of Ireland (1839 Gentleman's Magazine) and he had a brother Col. Gregory of the 44th regiment (SP email 9 Jul 2008).  A report on his burial in the Longford Journal of 27 Nov 1858 states, 'The Rev Dr Gregory died on the 14th inst at Paget Priory in his sixty seventh year, having been twenty six years rector of Kilmore, and chaplain to the Marquis of Anglesea and other successive Lords Lieutenant of Ireland.'

7a Richard Allott Tighe Gregory, b c1820.  Trinity records record, "PEN. Mr. Carrigan October 16, 1835 aged 15; s of Edward Tighe Clericus b. Antrim BA Vern 1840 LLB Vern 1843" (SP email 24 Jul 2008).  He is included in the 1881, 1888 and 1901 English census reports; on the last listed with him is a Marian Gregory (SP email 24 Jul 2008)

6e Deborah North of Tyrrellspass, m 1839 Roger North of Cappa, Galway (SP5).  This is based on a marriage settlement (deed 1839 15 189: EN email 10 Mar 2008) dated 7 Aug 1839 between Roger North, Cappa, Co Galway & Deborah North of Tyrrellspass, Co Westmeath, second daughter of John North, deceased.  Her father John North died in 1836 or 1838, and it appears from the Oswego letters that he may have opposed her marriage to Roger: 'I will begin with Roger’s marriage - you may recollect when you were going that it had been broken off a short time previous, after his father’s death he went to Co Westmeath and all obstacles being removed by the death of her father she listened to his proposal and they were married last August they have been residing at Cappa since then.'  John's mother was Deborah Leland, and this Deborah is presumed to have been named after her.  Deborah is named as one of John's unmarried daughters in deed 846 146 566646 of 1829.  Deborah North m Roger North in 1839 (Meath marriage bond in National Archive, EN email 19 Apr 2008).  Roger North of Cappa is in the tree as 5c ? Roger North, b c1792, d 10 May 1876, a widower. Under the marriage settlement (1839 15 189), Roger puts in trust for Deborah and Roger a half part or moiety of 'the lower lands of' Kilbride and Tonlegee.  The other half part or moiety of Kilbride and Tonlegee was held by Roger's uncle, Roger North of Kilbride and his heirs, as demised in the will of William of Kilbride.  It is not known if there were any 'upper' lands of Kilbride - possibly Whitewell?

6f Sarah Frances North, 'third daughter of John North of Whitewell, Co Westmeath, Esq' m Jun 1823 Godfrey Wills Berry, b 21 Jan 1799, d 14 Aug 1868 in Gillingham, Kent, England, son of William Knight Berry and Anna Wills (SP5), and had issue.  Sarah F North & G W Berry, marriage bond, 1823, Meath (CPR 1922 WW43).  Deed 783 102 529837 of 7 June 1823 is their marriage settlement; it includes John North of Whitewell, David North of Fairview & James Bagnall of Firbane, Kings Co.  G W Berry inherited from his grandfather, Thomas Berry, Egles Castle, Kings Co, perpetual rent (£50 pa) on lands Loughnagore, Sephanna? and Colehill, Westmeath, and John North agreed to the sum of £400 as marriage portion: those are put into trust for Godfrey, Sarah and their issue; witnessed by John Roger North & Isaac North of Whitewell, 'gent aged twenty years and upwards' (EN email 27 Sep 2008; CN email 5 May 2009)

7a William Knight Berry, b 1826, d 1848, of Ballyburky, MD (might be Ballyburley?)

7b Sarah Berry, b 1828

7c Godfrey Wills Berry, b 1831

7d  Deborah Margaret Berry, d 1862, 'died young'

7e Anne Berry, d 1871, 'died young'

7f  Charlotte Elizabeth Berry, b 1835

7g  Marianne Frances Berry (photo), b 1840, d 1890, married Frederick Augustus Gardiner (photo), b c1834 (ordination papers, SP email 14 Mar 2008 - also has more about his family), d 1900, and had issue: Sarah Frances Gardiner b 1864; Freda Marian Gardiner b 1867; and Frederick William Gardiner, b ?1869 ['1896' (SP5)].  All three children married and had issue.  Frederick Augustus Gardiner's parents were Alexander Stoker Gardiner and Augusta Maud Barber.  Augusta Barber may be related to Eleanor Barber (6a above) (SP email 16 Nov 2007).  In 1872 Frederick was living at St Mary's, Chatham, Kent (will of Jane Hannah North).  Frederick Augustus Gardiner's brother William Gardiner or William Alexandere Gardiner, b 1837, m in the UK on 18 Jan 1876 Katherine Emerson North, b 1853 (above) (Raymond Krepp email 14 Jan 2009)

6g Sophie North.  Sophie North is one of John's three unmarried daughters named in deed 846 146 566646 of 1829

6h Jane Hannah North, b c1802, d 16 Aug 1872 in Tyrrellspass aged 70, spinster, gentlewoman, alive 1835 (23.7).  Her niece, Marianne Frances Gardiner (nee Berry, above) was present at her death (death certificate: EN email 30 Apr 2009).  She left a will (EN email 3 Apr 2008): Frederick Augustus Gardiner of St Mary's, Chatham, Kent, (above) was the sole surviving executor

5b ? Roger North of Birr, d before 1816, perhaps before 1797 (deed 1797 510 529 333150 - see possible daughter Margaret below).  Birr is otherwise known as Parsonstown (EN email 23 Jun 2009).  There is a deed dated 1816 – 1818, number 705 542/3 483478, the marriage settlement for David North and Catherine Pim.  It states, in part, as best can be transcribed (CN email 11 Mar 2008; EN emails 23 May 2008):

.. a marriage was there intended by God’s permission to be had and solemnized between the said David North & the s^d Cath^r Pim recit^g that the s^d  David was seized and possessed of the town & lands of Upper and Lower Tinnikelly cont^g 235a 2r 2p plantation measure situate in the Barony of Lower Ormond & Coy of Tipperary, under & by virtue of a lease bearing date the 2 day of Aug^s 1784  & … the residues of the tenant interest have been vested in said same David North under & by virtue of the will of Roger North his uncle and the same David North was also seized under & by  virtue of said will of the lands of Clonfree contg 83 acres 1 rood & 5 perches situate in the Parish of ….

From this it appears that David North had an uncle Roger North, and that is the basis for this entry.  Note that David wasn't born until about 1794, and this deed suggests Uncle Roger mentioned David in his will, so Roger may have lived well into the 1800s.  Roger aquired Clonfree in 1791 (deed 1791 343 211 235759, CN email 24 Jul 2009: Roger aquired Clonfree 83 ac 1 rd 5 pch then in the possession of the widow Burke's undertenants, from Henry E Thompson of Dublin on 23 Feb 1791 for the life or lives of Joseph North son of Joseph North of Northbrook Co Galway [as far as we know, Joseph jr was the nephew of Joseph of Northbrook], John North son of Jⁿ North of Whitewell Co Westmeath & John Wetherall Thompson or for thirty one years at a rent of £32/2/6 pa) and David subsequently sold it (deed 1848 13 144 of Jul 1848).  Henry Thompson of Dublin also seems to have bought Tinnekelly (Tinnikilly, Tinnakilly), among other properties, from Richard Armstrong and Thomas Mitchell, merchants of Dublin, on 10 Mar 1788: deed 1788 391 293 26142, CN email 24 Jul 2009).  There is another Roger in the deeds, and it may be this Roger's son, though it is not clear why Uncle Roger would have willed rents, residues and lands to his nephew David North if he had a son Roger North; nor is there any evidence that Roger married (except for a possible daughter, below).  So for now the younger Roger has been placed as a brother of Joseph North of Cappa, who named a Roger North as the executor of his will.  Uncle Roger may be the Roger in another deed:  in deed 425 55 275840 of 20 Apr 1786, an indented deed of rent charge, between Roger North of Loughkeen, Co Tipperaray, and John North of Tyrrellspass, Co Westmeath, Roger gave granted bargained and made over one annuity of yearly rent charge of thirty pounds a year to the said John and Mary North his wife to be issuing and payable out of the lands of Whitewell in Westmeath and also out of the lands of Tinnekelly, in consideration of an assignment of the said John North’s interest in the lands of Tinnekelly in Co Tipperary to the said Roger North.  The memorial was witnessed by John Wade of Tyrrellspass (EN email 12 Mar 2008; CN email 9 Jun 2009).  The Roger of that deed, Roger North of Loughkeen, Co Tipperary, may be this Roger.  Tinnakilly or Tinnakelly, and Clonfree are in the townland of Loughkeen, Cloneen, Clonmel, Co Tipperary (EN email 28 Apr 2008).  Cornhill, Tinnakelly & Clonfree are townslands on the road from Riverstown village to Cloghjordan (& onwards to Borrisokane) about 2 to 4 miles outside Birr, very close to each other but not attached (EN email 23 Jun 2009).  As to John of Tyrrellspass and Mary his wife, they may be John of Cornhill, this Roger's grandfather, and his wife and cousin Mary North, who leased Tinnekelly in 1784 (deed 1816-18 705 542/3 483478, CN email 11 Mar 2008).  John seems to have been alive in 1786 when his other grandson John, this Roger's brother, married Anne Bomford (16.3.1)

6a ?Margaret North, m James Bagnell in 1797.  Deed 1797 510 529 333150 of 1797 is the marriage settlement of James Bagnell, gent, of Rahoe in Co Westmeath and Margaret North of Co Dublin, spinster.  The Margaret that was marrying was entitled, under the will of her father, the late Roger North, to £600 out of Tinnikelly and Clonfree - the lands that David North inherited from his 'Uncle Roger' of Birr.  Was Margaret the daughter of 'Uncle Roger'? - for whom we don't have a wife, much less issue.  Uncle Roger left a will, as it is mentioned in David's 1816 marriage settlement, so that is OK.  Uncle Roger may well have left a £600 legacy to a daughter and given the lands to his nephew, subject to the legacy.  We think Uncle Roger must have known David and that David was born in the 1790s, so we had supposed that Uncle Roger lived into the 1800s.  But in the 1797 settlement Margaret's father Roger is dead.  So the timing is all a bit tight - on our best estimate David was aged 3 in 1797.  Uncle Roger, as best we know, acquired Clonfree in 1791, and Tinnekelly in 1786 (deed 425 55 275840 of 20 Apr 1786 - assignment from John North of Whitewell/Tyrrellspass/Cornhill), so they only came together in the early 1790s

4b ?John North, son of John North of Whitewell. Deed 1791 343 211 235759 (CN email 24 Jul 2009) refers to 'John North son of Jⁿ North of Whitewell Co Westmeath', and 'Joseph North son of Joseph North of Northbrook Co Galway'.  The 1791 deed is recited in deed 1816-18 705 542/3 483478 with the same information.  Joseph of Northbrook is the next entry below, but his 'son' may be his nephew Joseph as it appears Joseph of Northbrook did not have a son Joseph when he died a year later.  Joseph of Northbrook had a brother John of Whitewell, who married Margaret Abernethy, and this entry is for the son John of that John as refered to in the deed, assuming him to be the son of John of Whitewell and Margaret Abernethy.  The 1791 deed may be wrong, and there is a low degree of confidence that this John existed.  There is a John in the next generation of the Whitewell Norths, but he is the son of 4a Roger North, above, not the son of a John

3c Joseph North of Garrynahane, will proved 1792 (SP1, Vicars prerogative wills). Betham's extract of his will appears to state, '27 North Joseph of Garrynahane [or Garrynuhane or Garrynichane: = Northbrook] Co Galway Gent dated 10th July 1789 pd [proved in the Prerogative Court] 1st March 1792 - wife Hannah - Sister [or Sisters or perhaps Lister - possibly his wife's maiden name?] daur Sarah Abernethy - nephew Joseph North' (EN email 25 Apr 2008 #1).  If it is 'Sister's daughter Sarah Abernethy', then Joseph had a sister who married an Abernethy who had a daughter Sarah Abernethy.  Henry Abernethy is a witness in deed 1726 50 54 32031. Joseph's brother 3b John North married Margaret Abernethy.  Joseph is included in a tree (Bainbridge) in a James North book (SP email 27 Feb 2008).  Joseph went to Galway, along with his nephew, his brother William's son 4c Joseph (SP email 7 Mar 2008), so 3c Joseph is 4c Joseph's 'Uncle Joseph' (SP email 27 Feb 2008).  Deed 1752 152 235 101563 of 19 Mar 1750 records a lease for lives renewable for ever of Garrynahane (Garrinahane), 200 acres, from Samuel Handy of Coolelough, Co Westmeath, to Joseph North of Garrinahane, Co Galway, for rent of £35 pa.  Ann Fouace and John Handy are named as sister and brother to Samuel Handy (CN email 15 Oct 2009).  Garrynahane was also known as Northbrook and on Joseph's death in 1792 xit went to his brother William of Kilbride Castle's third son, Joseph.  Deed 1752 101564 of 21 Jan 1752 records a lease of 82 acres in two parcels part of Killtobber, 135 acres, Co Galway, from William Bagnall, eldest son and heir of John Bagnall (deceased), to Joseph North of Garrenhane [Garrynahane] for £63/10.  Killtober has been leased to John Bagnall on 25 Mar 1724 by Barechias Low [Barakiah Low] of Newtown, Co Westmeath.  John Bagnall had a brother Timothy Bagnall (CN email 15 Oct 2009)

3d Unnamed daughter North.  See the entry for 3c Joseph North above: an unnamed daughter North has been included here because she may have married Henry Abernethy or another Abernethy and had the 'daughter Sarah Abernethy' mentioned in Betham's extract of Joseph's will.  Bainbridge includes 'daughters' in her tree

2e Susanna North.  Deed 200 51 1319424 of 1759: William Smith & Susanna his wife (nee North) of Courtfoyle?, Co Wicklow; refers back to their marriage 28 Nov 1733, Susanna being daughter of Roger North, Newcastle; deed concerns land & property to Roger North & William Midgely? of Kilbeggan, houses and tenements; jointure paid out of land at Courtfoyle and Carrignamuck, Co Wicklow (EN email 12 Mar 2008)

2f Mary North, d before 1748, m Caleb Emerson d 1748.  Mary North and Caleb North are mentioned as a daughter and son of Roger North in deed 1726 50 54 32031.  It is assumed that Caleb of the deed is 2b Caleb North above; this Mary North is his sister.  It appears they both went to Pennsylvania.  John Marshall has an Emerson tree which shows "Caleb Emerson (Thomas2, Edward1); m Mary North; [he] d 1748/49 at Philadelphia, PA. He resided at Dublin, Ireland. He resided at Philadelphia, PA. He left a will on 16 Jul 1748 at Philadelphia Co, PA; proved 16 Jan 1748."  From other sources, Mary North m c1710 Caleb Emerson, 'an eminent and rich looking-glass maker' of Dublin, son of Thomas Emerson and Dorothy Middleton; Thomas Emerson was the son of Sir Edward Emerson of Derham (?Durham) and Debaro Bogwell; Debaro Bogwell was the daughter of Sir John Bogwell.  Caleb Emerson d 1748 'at an advanced age' and there is no mention of his wife in his will (full transcript: Richard Emerson email 6 Dec 2008), which implies that Mary died before 1748 (Richard Emerson email 13 June 2008).  Mary North and Caleb Emerson had three children

3a Elizabeth Emerson m 1730 Alexander Graydon and moved to Pennsylvania in 1731 with her husband, her father Caleb Emerson, and probably her sister Anne, and had a son.  Her husband and her father took up business in Pensylvania, trading as Emerson and Graydon, importers of all manner of goods from Europe, including mirrors and slaves

4a Alexander Graydon, author of Memoirs of a life, Chiefly passed in Pennsylvania within the last 60 years (Edinburgh; printed for William Blackwood and T Cadell, Strand, London, 1822);

4b Elizabeth Graydon, m c 1748 David McIlvaine, brother of William McIlvaine who married Elizabeth's aunt Anne Emerson (Raymond Krepp email 21 Nov 2008)

3b Anne Emerson, m in Pennsylvania in May 1742 William McIlvaine as his first wife and had three children.  William McIlvaine was born on 31 Mar 1722 at Ayrshire, Scotland.  He immigrated in 1745 to Bristol, Bucks Co., PA. He was a shipping merchant.  He was a member of the Independant Company of Foot under Capt John Kidd. He married Margaret Cross on 3 Dec 1766 as his 2nd wife. He left a will on 26 Jan 1770 at 'Fairview', Bucks Co, PA; proved 4 Oct 1770. He died in 1770 at 'Fair View', Bristol, Bucks Co, PA. He was buried at Presbyterian Cemetery, Newtown, Bucks Co, PA. (John Marshall)

4c Mary McIlvaine

3c Joshua Emerson, who married before 1748 Martha Low or Martha Lowe and had a son (Raymond Krepp email 21 Nov 2008).  He is described as of Ballysolough, Kings Co, gent, in 1775 (deed 176 423 119418) [Ballysolagh or Ballysollagh is mentioned elsewhere in this narrative], of Geashill, Kings Co in 1757 and of City of Dublin, gent, in 1765 (Richard Emerson email 6 Dec 2008) and of Edenderry, Kings Co, when he died intestate in 1769 (Bethams extract)

4a Joshua Emerson who married in 1765 (see the Low family history)

1b John North of Clooneen, Kings Co (CoN) or of Clonin, Offaly (SP1), m 24 Apr 1679 (St Bride, Dublin, parish records, page 122: SP email 21 Mar 2008; EN email 4 Nov 2008)  Mary Watson of Castle Jordan, Co Westmeath, and had issue

2a Elias North of Ballyburley (or of Clonfad, Westmeath: Bainbridge) m 1705 Elizabeth Thorogood from Geashill (SP1), daughter of Thorogood of Dysart and had issue (Bainbridge).  See deed 69 438 49089 below

3a James North, Rev, b c1711, d 1771, m Hannah and had issue.  The North Tipperary Geneaology Centre holds a gravestone inscription record for a Rev James North, died 1 Feb 1771 aged 60 (so b c1711) buried in the Modreeny graveyard, Co Tipperary, who may (from the Tipperary connections, his imputed date of birth and the parents' marriage date) be this James (SP email 26 Sep 2008).  Rev James North, Summerhill [Co Tipperary], left a will (1774, CPR 1922, WW16).  James North & Hannah Mills (widow), marriage bond, 1738, Cork and Ross (CPR 1922 WW34).  There are other records probably relating to the same Rev James North.  Deed 133 270 90912 of 1748: James North of Tipperary 1st part; Huldah Nason, widow, sole executor of William Nason 2nd part; & Henry Nason of Castlelyons, Co Cork, 3rd part -  James North (with three addresses: City of Corke; Drumnamahane, Co Tipperary; & Shraduff, Co Tipperary) for consideration (the principal and some interest on the mortgage) and with the approval of Huldah Nason, makes over a mortgage over the late William Nason's land, part of Disert in the parish of Gortroe, Barrony of Barrymore, Co Corke, to Henry Nason (EN email 6 Dec 2008).  Deed 210 104 138125 of 12 Jun 1760 records the lease from the Rev James North of Drumnamahane, Co Tipperary and Hanna North, his wife, to Daniel Callaghan of Bandon Road in the south suburbs of the city of Corke, skinner, of slate dwelling houses then in Daniel's occupation (CN email 10 Mar 2009).  Rev James North of Borrisokane or Borrisakane or Borroskeane Co Tipp and John Cornwall and Alexander Cornwall of same did demise to Thomas Reed farmer a half interest in 17 acres and a full interest in 29 acres at Borroskeane, dated 24 Feb 1767 (Deed 1767 250 363 164364: EN email 17 Aug 2008; transcript: CN email 17 Mar 2009).  In deed 1777 322 88/9 212030 of 28 Aug 1775, Hannah North, widow of Rev James North, of Summerhill, Co Tipperary, Hannah gets £100, relief of her debts and a jointure for life of £40 pa, and her grandaughter Mrs Elizabeth Wilkinson gets a jointure of £10 pa while Hannah and another grandparent live, in exchange for all Hannah's interest in Summerhill and land called  Crottymore in the City and Co of Cork, and everything in her possession in or on it (CN email 29 Sep 2009)

3b Thoroughgood North or Thurgood North (SP1) or Thorogood North (Bainbridge) d 1773 in Tipperary (will), m at Ballymakee, Tipperary, 12 Aug 1746 Charity Freeman (ML, SP1, SP2) and had issue. Betham's extract of Thurgood's will reads, '259 North Thurgood of Tinoe Co Tippy - Dated 12th Sep- 1772 - pd 21st[?] Oct 1773 - daur Elizabeth Jones - Sons Christopher and James - Brother James North - wife Charitie[?] -'.  Also listed in Vicars prerogative wills

4a Elias North (SP1)

4b Christopher North, d 1818 at Mercer, Pa, USA, m 15 Apr 1765 Elizabeth Chapman and had issue (SP2: The Irish Genealogist)

4c James North (SP1)

4d Elizabeth North (SP1) m Jones (Betham)

2b John North b 1683 d 1740 m Lydia Kincaide d c1762 (EN email 27 Jul 2009) and had issue (The History of Augusta p 912).  They went to Maine, USA, in 1730 from Clooneen, Kings Co  Settled at Harrington, Pemaquid, Me.  See deed 69 438 49089 below.  Information on their children comes principally from The History of Augusta pp 912-919.

3a John North, b 1708, d 1763 m(1) Elizabeth Lewis and had issue.  She died and he married again in 1746 (see below).  He was a Captain at Fort Frederic and Fort St George (appointed 1757) during the French and Indian war; a surveyor of lands; and Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in Lincoln County from its establishment in 1860

4a Hon Joseph North, b 8 Aug 1739, d 1826, settled at Pemaquid, m 1764 Hannah Flag, daughter of Gershom Flag, a Plymouth proprieter (EN email 27 Jul 2009) and had issue

5a John North, b 1 Nov 1767, m(1) Mehitable Troth of Bath and had 4 children

6a George Flagg North, b 1792, d 1817 in Baltimore Md aged 25, master mariner, unmarried

6b Joseph North, b 1794, d 1819 at Savanna aged 19, ship master, unmarried

6c Caroline North, b c1797, m 9 Sep 1823 Benjamin Davis of Augusta

6d Hannah Flagg North, b 15 Nov 1899, d 1 Oct 1826, m(1) 23 Feb 1820 Joshua Bowman d 2 Sep 1823 and had issue

7a George Augustus Bowman, b 3 Dec 1820, ordained 9 Aug 1848, m 31 May 1855 Ernistine Lord of Portland and had 5 children

7b Caroline North Bowman, b 19 Mar 1822, d 28 Nov 1826

6d Hannah Flagg North m(2) Andrew Gardiner Winslow, son of General John Winslow of Boston

5a John North m(2) Elizabeth B Linnell of Mercer and had 1 further child

6e George Flagg North, b 1826, m 1852 Martha B Hill of Exeter, Me, and had issue

7a Hattie Bell North, b 12 Nov 1853

7b Gershom Flag North, b 6 Oct 1856

7c Hannah G North, b 1 Nov 1858

7d Charles L North, b 6 Mar 1861

7e Clara E North, b 1 Jun 1863

7f Martha H North, b 10 Apr 1866

7g Jennie North, b 12 Dec 1869

5b Gershom North, b 12 Dec 1769, d 4 Mar 1849, m(1) Ann Rasom d 24 Jan 1832 without issue; m(2) 20 Jun 1834 Mrs Mary Currier and had issue

6a Hannah Bridge North, b 7 Mar 1837, m 3 Sep 1853 Richard Turner and had issue

7a Isabella F Turner, b 14 Jan 1855

7b Evelyn Turner, b 26 Mar 1863

7c Albert G Turner, b 12 Oct 1869

5c Joseph North, b 9 Dec 1771, d Sep 1832, m 3 Feb 1806 his cousin Lydia McKecknie d Dec 1841, and had issue.  He was in trade in Clinton (now Benton) with his brother James until James died in 1812

6a Mary Jane North, b 7 Nov 1809, d Nov 1842, m Aug 1832 Charles Lancaster, merchant of Augusta, and had issue.  He married again

7a Marie Louise Lancaster, b 1833, m Frank D Morrill of San Francisco, California

7b Charles Edward Lancaster, b 1835, dentist of San Francisco, California

6b Joseph Henry North, b 25 Aug 1812 m 6 Apr 1840 Eliza H Underwood, daughter of Joseph H Underwood of Fayette, and had issue.  Joseph graduated from Maine Medical School in 1835 and lived at West Waterville and at Hammonton NJ

7a Edward North, b 29 Jul 1841, graduated 1868 from Jefferson Medical College, Penn and practiced at Hammonton NJ

7b Joseph Henry North, b 9 Oct 1843, graduated 1869 from Jefferson Medical College, Penn and was in a regiment of the NJ Cavalry 'during the war'

7c Mary Jane North, b 17 Nov 1845, m R S Morse and lived at Atlantic City NJ

7d Hannah Flag North, b 17 Jul 1848

7e Eliza Underwood North, b 6 Jun 1850

7f James North, b 2 Sep 1855

7g William McKecknie North, b 18 Feb 1858

6c James North, b 25 Jul 1813

6d William North, b 8 Jan 1815, died unmarried

6e Margaret Bridge North, b 18 Jun 1818, m 2 May 1842 Dr George Gourlay of Scotland, then Philadelphia and subsequently of Hobeken, New York, and had issue

7a Walter Gourlay, b 19 Feb 1843, graduate of Union College, 1864

7b Mary Gourlay, b 11 Jan 1845

7c George Everett Gourlay, b 3 Aug 1847, d 30 Sep 1848

7d Frederic Gourlay, b 7 Mar 1849

7e Emily Haywood Gourlay, b 18 Oct 1851, d 29 Jul 1852

7f Charles Burrill Gourlay, b 13 Feb 1857

5d Hannah North, b 29 Jun 1774, m 4 Jul 1797 the Hon James Bidge of Augusta

5e James North, b 13 Sep 1777, d 10 Feb 1812, m 2 Aug 1807 Martha Jewett, d 25 Feb 1812, and had issue.  Was in partnership in trade with his brother Joseph

6a James William North, b 12 Feb 1810, m 23 Sep 1834 Phebe Upton, and had issue.  Lawyer, lived in Clinton (now Benton), returned to Augusta and was mayor 1857-60

7a James William North, b 24 Mar 1838, m 17 July 1865 Virginie H Freer and had issue.  Graduated from Bowdoin Medical School in 1868, practiced at Gardiner from 1864,  assistant surgeon 107th Regiment of Colored Infantry, discharged at the end of the war, practiced in Augusta from 1866, moved to Jefferson 1868

8a Martha Jewett North, b15 Sep 1866

8b Carolina North, b 9 Nov 1868

7b George Flint North, b 18 Mar 1840, m 24 Apr 1865 Ellen Robinson, daughter of Ivory J Robinson of Augusta, and had issue.  Lived in Augusta

8a William North, b 20 Jul 1866

7c Jewett North, b 28 Apr 1842, d 3 Sep 863

7d Horace North, b 3 Jul 1847

4b Mary North, b 1742, d 21 Jul 1816, m(1) 1 Jan 1760 Dr John McKecknie, Scottish physician, teacher in Pemaquid, and later a land surveyor, d 14 Apr 1782 (the marriage was apparently not to the 'good liking' of her father) and had 13 children.  Following McKecknie's death, Mary m(2) David Pattee

5a Elizabeth McKecknie, b 29 Oct 1760, m Samuel McFarland of Waterville and had 6 children

5b Thomas McKecknie, b 1 Sep 1762, m Olive Parker and had 5 sons and 4 daughters

5c Rebecca McKecknie, b 27 May 1764, m Simeon Tozer and had 11 children

 5d Hannah McKecknie, b 28 Apr 1766, m 31 Dec 1788 Elias Craig of Augusta

5e Sarah McKecknie, b 1 Feb 1768, m Abraham Steward and had issue

5f John McKecknie, b 13 Jan 1770 m Anne Hume and had 2 daughters

5g Mary McKecknie, b 3 Nov 1771, d 5 Sep 1814, m James Stackpole of Waterville d 18 Sep 1852, and had 4 children

5h Agnes McKecknie, b 1 May 1773, d Oct 1773

5i Jean McKecknie, b 23 Aug 1774, m Captain William Haywood and had 7 children

5j Joseph McKecknie, b 8 Sep 1775, m Electa Bement and had issue

5k Lydia McKecknie, b 12 Jan 1777, d Dec 1841, who m her cousin 5c Joseph North, b 9 Dec 1771, above

5l Alexander McKecknie, b 22 Aug 1778, m Betsy Roberts and had 5 sons

5m William McKecknie, b 20 Apr 1781, d unmarried

3a John North b 1708 m(2) Elizabeth Pitson, daughter of James Pitson and Hannah Pitson of Boston (SP2), d 1789 (EN email 27 Jul 2009), and had further issue

4c Willliam North, General, b 1755 at Fort Frederick, Pemaquid, Maine, d 3 Jan 1836 New York City, m 1787 Mary Duane, d 11 May 1813, granddaughter of Robert Livingstone, and had issue (The History of Augusta p 915).  Served as aide-de-camp to Baron von Steuben in the Revolutionary army and became a New York state politician. Von Steuben left half his estate to William. Wikipedia entry

5a Frederick William Steuben North, b 14 Jul 1788 d 1789

5b Marie North, b 12 Aug 1789, d 8 Jun 1812

5c James Duane North, b 28 Jan 1791, d 1792

5d Elizabeth North, b 1792, d 8 Jun 1845, unmarried

5eWilliam Augustus Steuben North, b 1 Feb 1793, m Margaret Bridge, daughter of Judge Bride of Augusta and had issue.  Graduated from Union College in 1812.  Practiced law, but changed to agriculture at Duanesburg

6a Mary Catherine North, m Rev D C Weston

6b Hannah Elizabeth North

6c Adelia North, died young

5f Adelia North b 14 May 1797, m Major Henry Saunders of Leesburg, Virginia and had issue

6a Eliza Saunders, b 31 Mar 1831, d 1842

6b Henry Saunders, died young

6c Adelia Saunders, died young

3b James North died on the passage from Ireland

3c Elizabeth North m John Wirling of Pemaquid, Maine

3d Mary North m Kennedy

3e Rebecca North m William Toler of Stoneham Mass

3f Lydia North m Boise Cooper of Pemaquid, Maine

3g Sarah North m Hewson

3h Ann North m Hardy and stayed in Ireland (The History of Augusta, p 913)

2c William North of Lawrencetown and Coole, d 1722, m Anna and had issue (SP1).  Betham's extract of his will states, '386 North William of Lawrencetown Kings Co - Dated 5th Feb 1721/2 - pd 16th Jan 1722 - wife Anna - Grandson Joseph Bagnell - Sons Elie and John John and Elie -' (EN email 25 Apr 2008 #13).  Also recorded in Vicars prerogative wills

3a John North of Lawrencetown (SP1).  Harriet Bainbridge says this John had sons William who married Rachel Antisell, and James. However, the marriage settlement of William and Rachel makes it clear that William was the son of John's brother Elie, and so both William and James have been moved to be sons of Elie.  At this stage there is no other evidence that John had sons, or even that he married

3b Elie North of Ballintubber (SP1) (will of his father, above).  Deed 69 438 49089 of 14 Apr 1729: John North, Tinny Cross, King’s Co, farmer, did grant and confirm unto Elie North of Cool, Kings Co, farmer, all his moiety and part of the town and lands of Tonglagee, Co Kildare and also his moiety and part of the town and lands of Coole and part of the lands of  Togher, Croghan, Kings Co, that is to say his whole interest in the leases of the said towns and lands to hold to the said Elie, his Execs and Adms and assigns during the continuance of the respective --- together with the part of sheep, lambs, cows, bullocks, heifers of several ages and corn of the towns and lands of above to the said Elie, his Execs --- own proper life and uses forever, witness Joseph Sikes of Tinecross, farmer, Deborah Miller, Coole, widow, & Wm North eldest son of the said Elie North (EN email 17 May 2008).  While it is not entirely certain who each of the parties is in this deed, it seems most likely that it was 2b John North b 1683 transferring land to his nephew, this Elie, before John took his family to the USA in 1830.  If the deed refers to this Elie, his son William was the witness to the deed, and it explains how Elie had the land to promise to son William in William's marriage settlement (deed  206 293 136070 of 14 Feb 1737)

4a William North of Cool, Kings Co, d c1775 (Vicars prerogative wills), m 9 Feb 1737 Rachel Antisele or Rachel Antisell of Grange, Co Tipperary (ML), d c1801 (Vicars prerogative wills) (possible family) and had issue (SP1).  Betham's extract of William's will reads, '281 North William of Cool Kings Co farmer - Dated 19th Decr 1771 pd 16th May 1775 - children Rachel - Mary - James - William and Thorogood - daur Jane wife of Philip Sherlock - Son Eli - wife Rachel - Brothers James North and Christopher Antisell -' (EN email 25 Apr 2008 #5).  There is a record of an 1801 will for a Rachel Antisele (SP1).  Brother Christopher Antisell named in William's will would be Rachel's brother, so William's brother in law.  Deed 206 293 136070 of 14 Feb 1737 is their marriage settlement: Thomas Antisell of Straduffing, Co Tipperary, 1st part; Wm North of Coole in Kings Co, 2nd part; Ely North, father of Wm North, 3rd part; Godfrey Hemsworth of Lackine, Co Tipperary, 4th part; and Rachel Antisell, 2nd daughter of Thos Antisell 5th part - agreed that Wm North shall take to wife Rachel Antisell and Rachel shall take to husband Wm on or before 1 May then next; in consideration of marriage to be had then Thos Antisell covenanted to pay said Wm North £100 on 1 May then next, £50 on birth of 1st child by said Rachel; in consideration of said intended marriage Ely North covented to pay Wm North £200 in sheep, black cattle and horses on 1 May then next, ye farm of Tandrowgee, Co Kildare, on 1 May next, clear from any debt or rent, and also the farm aforementioned and five acres at Cragh, Kings Co, on 1 May, clear from debt or rent, and also farm said Ely North then lived on of 200 acres at Cool, Kings Co upon the death of said Ely North reserving the 4th part [i.e. a quarter?] of said farm of Cool for Ely and [his] then present wife during her lifetime and then to come said son William clear of debt; Y^e s^d Wm North in considⁿ of s^d marr portion cov^ted [covenented] if in case s^d w^m shall [leave] the sd Rachel with one or more child or childⁿ & marry a sec^d wife Y^t in which case Y^e s^d W^m shall immediately after such sec^d marr secure unto the s^d Tho^s Antisel & Godfrey Hemsworth one hun^d & fifty p^ds for Y^e use of such child or childⁿ when such child or childⁿ shall attain to twenty one years or day of marr wc^h  first happens provided s^d child or childⁿ marrys with the consent of Y^e father or any of s^d trustees to be paid to such child or childⁿ in such share & proportion as s^d W^m North by deed or will shall direct & for want of such directⁿ to be paid to such childⁿ share & share alike & if but one child the s^d one hun^d & fifty p^ds to be p^d to such child as afores^d .. agreed between s^d parties Yt in case s^d Rachel shall survive s^d W^m leaving issue by him at his death Y^t she shall have out of the assets & effects of s^d W^m one hun^d & fifty p^ds in full all dower … & if s^d Rachel survives him without issue then she shall have two hun^d & fifty p^ds in full of dower  --- witnesses Thos North of Pallisboy in Westmeath and Thorgood North of Thennoes, Co Tipperary – sworn 18 Jun 1760 (CN email 1 Mar 2009; EN email 6 Dec 2008).  William North is named as a son of Elie North of Cool in deed 69 438 49089 of 1729.  (As an aside, there was still a Thomas Antisell born in Straduff, Co Tipperary, in the 1911 Dublin census - aged 38, married five years, living at 7 St Annes Terrace, Clontarf East, no children (EN email 21 Apr 2010))

5a Elias North or Eli North or Elic North or Elie North or Ely North, d before 1806 (deed 583 32 393592) m c1771 Margaret Homan and had issue.  Deed 299  671 200128 of 9 Dec 1771 (EN emails 12 Mar & 3 Sep 2008) records the marriage articles of Margaret Homan, youngest daughter of Daniel Homan, Drumcooley, King’s Co (her mother might be Rebecca Grierson who married a Daniel Homan in 1728: Shonagh Love email 12 Jun 2009), and Elie North, 1st son of William & Rachel North, of Coole, Kings Co; mentions land at Ballyowen situated in the Half Barony of Philipstown, and at Coole and Togher.  If this is the Ely of deed 526 280 344432 of 1800 then he is 'Ely North of Edenderry, Kings Co'.  In deed 1776 311 114 207482 of 5 Feb 1774 Elie North, gent of Ballyowen (Ballyown, Balliowin), Kings Co, transfers the remainder of a lease over Ballyowen, on which he lived and which he had on lease from John Ledbeater deceased, to Phillip Sherlock, witnessed by Daniel Homan of Drimcooly (Drumcooly) (CN email 29 Sep 2009)

6a William North, eldest son (so presumably born soon after his parents' marriage in Dec 1771), alive in 1833 (surviving trustee of his sister Rachel's marriage settlement named in deed 1833 6 182).  Deed 583 32 393592 of 16 Jan 1806: William North of the Bank of Ireland, Dublin, eldest son and heir of Elie North, late of Edenderry, Kings Co; and David North of the Bank of Ireland, 2nd son of Elie North, deceased; and Elie North of the City of Dublin, printer, 3rd son of Elie North; Rachael North and Sarah North daughters of Elie North; & Geo Fausett of Garavacum, Queens Co - the said William for consideration lands of Croghan, Ballysollagh near Philipstown in Kings Co, by Chas Bury to Wm North, to hold to said George Fausett upon trust (EN email 22 Jan 2009) (George Fausett is trustee in 6e Sarah's 1808 marriage settlement, below; the lands at Ballysollagh were held by William's uncle William, who transferred them to William's father Eli by deed 526 280 344432 on 24 Mar 1800)

6b David North of the Bank of Ireland, second son (deed 583 32 393592 of 1806)

6c Elie North, printer of Dublin, third son (deed 583 32 393592 of 1806).  An Elias North is recorded at 6 Westmoreland Row, Ranelagh, from 1850 to 1852, and a Mrs J North is at the same address from 1848 to 1850 (Dublin directories: EN email 8 Feb 2010).  Possibly this is the same Elie, or perhaps a son of the same name

7a ?William North, carpenter, of 5 Westmoreland Terrace, Ranelagh, son of Elias North compositor, married on 3 Nov 1859 Letitia Anne Wilson daughter of John Wilson, gentleman (Irish marriage certificate: SP email 25 Jul 2008; St Peter parish records, Dublin) and had issue.  This William might be a son of this Elie the printer, though there is rather a gap between the 1806 deed in which Elie above was already a printer and the 1859 marriage of this William (so this William might be a grandson, with another Elias in between)

8a William Elie North, b 28 Feb 1861, baptised 20 Mar 1861, son of William North, builder, and Letitia Anne North, of 15 Redmonds Hill (St Peter parish records, Dublin)

8b Letitia Margaret North, b 13 Nov 1862, baptised 28 Jan 1863, dau of William North, carpenter and builder, and Letitia Anne North, of 10 Lower Mercer St (St Peter parish records, Dublin)

7b ?Charlotte North.  A Charlotte North, b 8 Mar 1839, was baptised on 17 Apr 1839, dau of Elias North and Isabella North (St Werburgh parish records, Dublin)

7c Margaret North, b 28 Aug 1841, baptised 6 Oct 1841, dau of Elias North and Isabella North of 22 Mount Pleasant Ave (St Peter parish records, Dublin)

6d Rachel North, m 1810 George Crawley (Rachel North & George Crawley, marriage bond, 1810, Kildare (CPR 1922 WW39)) and had issue. 1833 6 182: 11 Apr 1833 (RB email 13 Mar 2008), George Crawley, Birr, Kings Co Merchant, and Rachel Crawley, otherwise North, his wife, 1st part; Wm North, surviving trustee named in a Deed of Marriage dated 20 Oct 1810, on the marriage of George Crawley and Rachel North, of the 2nd part; and Wm Barres of Edenderry, Kings Co, farmer, 3rd part.  Whereby after ---- Elic North the father of said William and Rachel North, lease agreement - and the said Elic North, other part - to become entitled to certain premises known as tan yard holding in Edenderry, Baron of Coolestown, Edenderry town.  This deed suggests Elic [Elias] North had a son William and a daughter Rachel; Rachel married George Crawley in 1810; and her brother was trustee to her marriage settlement

6e Sarah North.  Deed 605 68 414413 of 26 Apr 1808 is the marriage settlement of Thomas Fossett of Portarlington and Sarah North of Dublin.  George Fossett/Fausett of Garryvecum Queens Co is trustee.  Thomas makes over to George various plots of land in Dublin, with a charge of £40 pa payable to Sarah if she survives Thomas, otherwise to the children (EN email 22 Jan 2009; CN email 25 Jul 2009).  This was a second marriage for Thomas Fossett of Portarlington, Kings Co: deed 580 39 389662 of 17 Jan 1806 is a settlement for his marriage to Mary Ann Fannin, dau of Robert Fannin (sen), upholsterer, deceased, and sister of Robert Fannin, cabinet maker of Dublin (Shonagh Love email 5 Feb 2010).  Both marriage settlements concern land in Great Georges St.  It appears that Mary Ann Fannin died without issue soon after the marriage (deed 1872 24 288).  Deed 1837 18 253 of 25 Oct 1837 records Thomas Fossitt of Edenderry, Kings Co, and Sarah Fossitt otherwise North, his wife - said Sarah on the death of her brother William - claiming sum of £900 Government stock and dividends (EN email 14 Oct 2008).  The only connections placing Sarah here were Edenderry and the brother William, but deed 583 32 393592 confirms that Sarah was a daughter of Elias and Margaret.  Deed 1842 25 11 of 31 Oct 1842 between Thomas Fossitt of Ballymurren, Co Wicklow, late of Edenderry, and Sarah otherwise North; & Harrington Tinkler of Portgarlington, Queen’s Co; and said Sarah Fossitt, Rachael, Mary Anne, Sarah Charlotte and Rebecca Fossitt, five of the daughters of Thomas Fossitt and Sarah of Ballymurren House; --- Mathew Jackson and Margaret Fossitt his wife of Millmount Kings Co, now of Prosperous, Co Kildare; and Thomas Fossitt son of Thomas Fossitt - re 1837 [deed:] paid by H Tinkler £750 to be divided between five unmarried daughters (EN email 1 Feb 2009).  Shonagh Love (email 6 Jun 2009) has more information on Thomas Fossitt.  His father was John Fossitt, and George Fossitt of Garryvecum, Queens Co, (mentioned in Lewis' survey) was John's brother, Thomas' uncle.  George married Sarah Homan (deed 303 132 200356 of 28 Apr 1774 is their marriage settlement: Shonagh Love email 5 Feb 2010), daughter of Daniel Homan of Drumcooly and sister of Margaret Homan who married Elie North, and they may be buried at Geashill with other members of the family.  Thomas also had, among 7 other siblings, a youngest brother John Fossitt, who had issue including Sarah Fossitt who married William Holland of Co Galway: they have living descendents (details in Shonagh Love email 12 Jun 2009).  Thomas Fossitt seems to have died in the 1840s.  Sarah was still alive in 1857 but dead by 1872 (as related in deed 1872 24 288: Shonagh Love email 5 Feb 2010).